The Braves become the first first wild card to fail to make the DS. Kind of a bummer, considering the whole Chipper thing.
38 thoughts on “October 6, 2012: Hosed”
Chipper got a hit in his last AB!
I watched the replay and it almost looks like an intentional flop (like the 2B threw it weirder than he had to, and the 1B got pulled off despite not needing to be), and it almost looks like the ump blew the call (like the 1B got his foot back to the bag anyway, and maybe he gave Chipper the benefit both because it was Chipper's last ever PA and half to avoid an all-out riot from the Braves' fans). On that last issue, the replay was inconclusive because Chipper's body was in the way of the one angle they showed.
yeah, the whole thing was weird. There was no need for the 2b dude to make a Jeter throw when Chipper is 'running'
what call was worse: last nights 'infield fly' or Phil Cuzzi's 'foul ball'
Cuzzi's was just completely wrong. The infield fly was a judgment call that is not usually made, but there is gray area there, so you could make an argument that it was correct (I would not).
Like I said, I support the call.
I haven't yet seen who called it and when. If it was called by the LF ump and at the last second, I support it less because at that time, he could tell more how deep it was.
It was called by the LF ump, and it was called too late to make it a good judgement call. Cuzzi's was wrong on two accounts; the LFer touched the ball in fair territory, and the ball fell in fair territory.
He said at the post-game presser that the SS was there, prepared to make the fly ball catch with ordinary effort. That IS the definition of the necessary condition for the infield fly rule.
it certainly had very little to do with the Braves losing.
I guess with the LF ump calling it, and late, it's fuzzier for me that it was called. It definitely fits the letter of the rule, but I'm not sure about the intent, which is to eliminate the fakeout-game-theory-will-he-drop-it-on-purpose double-play.
Is there any chance that the SS heard the LF ump call it and thought that was the LFer calling for the ball and that being why he deferred to no-one?
Is there any chance that the SS heard the LF ump call it and thought that was the LFer calling for the ball and that being why he deferred to no-one?
That is the best explanation I've heard. Watching the replays, the SS pulls out just before the ump raises his hand to signal infield fly rule. If we assume the ump yelled it out first and raised his hand, then the SS would have heard something nearer than the stands, but not be able to understand it completely due to how noisy it was. He would think calling infield fly rule as unlikely, so instead thought the LFer was going to make the catch.
Holliday (LFer) seemed to think that the SS pulled up because he "heard" him coming behind him. Certainly Holliday never mentioned hearing an IF rule call.
I was thinking last night that it would be difficult to program an umpire robot to make that call correctly.
So far the time zone change has been annoying because things at night come on an hour later than I'm used to. But now football is on an hour later in the morning and I don't have to get up quite so early, it's really nice.
So, Chelsea-Norwich or Wigan-Everton?
Snagging a point on the road (with a late penalty no less), is perfectly fine with me.
I only saw the tail-end of the Chelsea-Norwich match, but it was a slaughter where Norwich never did gain their footing. I really just wanted it to be over for them.
Ryan indicated that starting pitchers could come from the Twins' minor league system and free agents also could be an option.
"Anybody that's available, we'll at least look at," Ryan said.
Pohlad said the organization is committed to winning -- even if it means increasing the payroll.
"We've never told anybody that they have to spend X dollars, and we never told them they can't spend whatever they're recommending," Pohlad said. "We have a history of general managers who know financial discipline and responsibility. It could go up. It could go down. It's what Terry comes and tells us."
We just tell Terry that you have to make a profit each year and here is our projected revenue. See, no limitations on payroll!
Well, then, if there are starting pitchers available that could help the Twins win and Terry Ryan doesn't sign them or at least make a competitive deal to sign them, well, that's his fault and he should be fired, right Mr. Pohlad?
Asked if Ryan had the job as long as he wanted it, team owner Jim Pohlad said, "Yes."
I finally finished some longer books that I had been reading off/on for a while.
The Source (J. Michener) was an interesting read, as I had just been to Israel/Jordan two years back and covered many of the same places as were discussed in the book (Akko, Zafed, Lake Galilee).
And also finished Arturo Pérez-Reverte's The Nautical Chart - I have been scarfing up other APR works over the years, especially the Alatriste series, and Flanders Panel was good as well.
I'm about 100 pages into One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez. We'll see.
And 216 pages (out of 870) into Life and Fate by Vasily Grossman. I may finish this one, but one can only handle so much of life+fate at a time.
Two popular college quiz bowl answers are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Pablo Neruda, and somehow I always managed to say the wrong one. I just can't keep them straight. Also, once I answered "A Thousand Years of Sadness or something like that. There's a time and an emotion" in practice.
A foreign film I would recommend is Il Postino (The Postman), which is a fictional recount of Pablo Neruda in exile on a small island in Italy. Neruda teaches poetry to a bumbling part-time postman to help him try to win the local beauty.
not just a beautiful film, but the main actor (Massimo Troisi) postponed heart surgery to make the film, and died less than a day after wrap.
That's really sad. At least he is immortalized in the film.
I've heard some sports talk shows say that he made a mockery of the game. I disagree. The Marlins have committed far worse sins against baseball than this. There are plenty of people wearing major league uniforms in September that don't really measure up.
No kidding. He improved each of the last two years he was at Bridgeport. He's done more at the plate in the minors than, say, Pedro Florimon or Drew Butera. Giving a guy with 10+ years of minor league experience, 1000+ games, and 4000+ PA a single AB is hardly making a mockery of anything, let alone an otherwise meaningless game 162.
Fernando Galvez · Top Commenter · Miami High School
I'm sure Jeffrey Loria will find a way to trade him or send him down to the minors before he gets his chance. I love my Marlins but Loria is worse than smashing your d!ck with a hammer.
"If they don't receive you in a town," Hamilton said, "shake the dust off your feet and move to the next".....Texas' dust never seemed so ripe to shake.
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Could the Twins use a guy who has averaged over 4 fWAR per year over the last five years?
I mentally went there as well; unfortunately, he's a left-handed batter, and he can't pitch.
At least the former medical regime wouldn't be trying to work their magic on his variety of ailments.
They could, but I'm not so sure I'd want the Twins to be the one to give him a long term deal.
hey, Nation. Anyone with experience/insight to share on Nissan Altimas? I'm looking at a 2007 Altima S with 115K on it. I have a tentative price quote of $7995 from the dealer.
the Edmonds autocheck says that it has been in 2 reported accidents, but I couldn't see anything obvious, and the car felt pretty rock solid on my test drive today. It's an automatic with a black interior (boo!). but the other car I looked at today was a 2009 Ford Focus with 69K (and manual everything) that didn't feel as nice and is listed for more. (I like the idea of a stick, because I want to teach my daughter how to drive a clutch, but not at the expense of something distinctly mediocre).
Not counting Miggy, there have been nine Triple Crown winners since 1931 -- the first year of the BBWAA MVP award. OK? Nine.
Number of Triple Crown winners who led every-day players in WAR: 9.
Number of Triple Crown winners who led league in OPS+: 9
Number of Triple Crown winners who won the MVP: 5.
Chipper got a hit in his last AB!
I watched the replay and it almost looks like an intentional flop (like the 2B threw it weirder than he had to, and the 1B got pulled off despite not needing to be), and it almost looks like the ump blew the call (like the 1B got his foot back to the bag anyway, and maybe he gave Chipper the benefit both because it was Chipper's last ever PA and half to avoid an all-out riot from the Braves' fans). On that last issue, the replay was inconclusive because Chipper's body was in the way of the one angle they showed.
yeah, the whole thing was weird. There was no need for the 2b dude to make a Jeter throw when Chipper is 'running'
what call was worse: last nights 'infield fly' or Phil Cuzzi's 'foul ball'
Cuzzi's was just completely wrong. The infield fly was a judgment call that is not usually made, but there is gray area there, so you could make an argument that it was correct (I would not).
Like I said, I support the call.
I haven't yet seen who called it and when. If it was called by the LF ump and at the last second, I support it less because at that time, he could tell more how deep it was.
It was called by the LF ump, and it was called too late to make it a good judgement call. Cuzzi's was wrong on two accounts; the LFer touched the ball in fair territory, and the ball fell in fair territory.
He said at the post-game presser that the SS was there, prepared to make the fly ball catch with ordinary effort. That IS the definition of the necessary condition for the infield fly rule.
it certainly had very little to do with the Braves losing.
I guess with the LF ump calling it, and late, it's fuzzier for me that it was called. It definitely fits the letter of the rule, but I'm not sure about the intent, which is to eliminate the fakeout-game-theory-will-he-drop-it-on-purpose double-play.
Is there any chance that the SS heard the LF ump call it and thought that was the LFer calling for the ball and that being why he deferred to no-one?
Is there any chance that the SS heard the LF ump call it and thought that was the LFer calling for the ball and that being why he deferred to no-one?
That is the best explanation I've heard. Watching the replays, the SS pulls out just before the ump raises his hand to signal infield fly rule. If we assume the ump yelled it out first and raised his hand, then the SS would have heard something nearer than the stands, but not be able to understand it completely due to how noisy it was. He would think calling infield fly rule as unlikely, so instead thought the LFer was going to make the catch.
Holliday (LFer) seemed to think that the SS pulled up because he "heard" him coming behind him. Certainly Holliday never mentioned hearing an IF rule call.
I was thinking last night that it would be difficult to program an umpire robot to make that call correctly.
So far the time zone change has been annoying because things at night come on an hour later than I'm used to. But now football is on an hour later in the morning and I don't have to get up quite so early, it's really nice.
So, Chelsea-Norwich or Wigan-Everton?
Snagging a point on the road (with a late penalty no less), is perfectly fine with me.
I only saw the tail-end of the Chelsea-Norwich match, but it was a slaughter where Norwich never did gain their footing. I really just wanted it to be over for them.
We just tell Terry that you have to make a profit each year and here is our projected revenue. See, no limitations on payroll!
Well, then, if there are starting pitchers available that could help the Twins win and Terry Ryan doesn't sign them or at least make a competitive deal to sign them, well, that's his fault and he should be fired, right Mr. Pohlad?
I finally finished some longer books that I had been reading off/on for a while.
The Source (J. Michener) was an interesting read, as I had just been to Israel/Jordan two years back and covered many of the same places as were discussed in the book (Akko, Zafed, Lake Galilee).
And also finished Arturo Pérez-Reverte's The Nautical Chart - I have been scarfing up other APR works over the years, especially the Alatriste series, and Flanders Panel was good as well.
I'm about 100 pages into One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez. We'll see.
And 216 pages (out of 870) into Life and Fate by Vasily Grossman. I may finish this one, but one can only handle so much of life+fate at a time.
Two popular college quiz bowl answers are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Pablo Neruda, and somehow I always managed to say the wrong one. I just can't keep them straight. Also, once I answered "A Thousand Years of Sadness or something like that. There's a time and an emotion" in practice.
A foreign film I would recommend is Il Postino (The Postman), which is a fictional recount of Pablo Neruda in exile on a small island in Italy. Neruda teaches poetry to a bumbling part-time postman to help him try to win the local beauty.
not just a beautiful film, but the main actor (Massimo Troisi) postponed heart surgery to make the film, and died less than a day after wrap.
That's really sad. At least he is immortalized in the film.
ok, ok, ok, I'll do the book post today, damnit.
Neshek back with the A's in Detroit.
No word yet if he's on the roster.
this says he is
I missed the coda earlier on the Adam Greenberg story. Apparently, he and the Marlins donated his one-day salary to charity.
I've heard some sports talk shows say that he made a mockery of the game. I disagree. The Marlins have committed far worse sins against baseball than this. There are plenty of people wearing major league uniforms in September that don't really measure up.
No kidding. He improved each of the last two years he was at Bridgeport. He's done more at the plate in the minors than, say, Pedro Florimon or Drew Butera. Giving a guy with 10+ years of minor league experience, 1000+ games, and 4000+ PA a single AB is hardly making a mockery of anything, let alone an otherwise meaningless game 162.
I lol'd at this comment from the USA today piece.
Booo?
"If they don't receive you in a town," Hamilton said, "shake the dust off your feet and move to the next".....Texas' dust never seemed so ripe to shake.
Check out the new Swiffer WetJet pads.
Could the Twins use a guy who has averaged over 4 fWAR per year over the last five years?
I mentally went there as well; unfortunately, he's a left-handed batter, and he can't pitch.
At least the former medical regime wouldn't be trying to work their magic on his variety of ailments.
They could, but I'm not so sure I'd want the Twins to be the one to give him a long term deal.
hey, Nation. Anyone with experience/insight to share on Nissan Altimas? I'm looking at a 2007 Altima S with 115K on it. I have a tentative price quote of $7995 from the dealer.
the Edmonds autocheck says that it has been in 2 reported accidents, but I couldn't see anything obvious, and the car felt pretty rock solid on my test drive today. It's an automatic with a black interior (boo!). but the other car I looked at today was a 2009 Ford Focus with 69K (and manual everything) that didn't feel as nice and is listed for more. (I like the idea of a stick, because I want to teach my daughter how to drive a clutch, but not at the expense of something distinctly mediocre).