96 thoughts on “Fourth Monday Movie Day”

    1. No. Why do you keep talking about it? It's like you're putting it in every single thread we have today. Shouldn't we be focused on football?

  1. I watched all of Errol Morris’ Wormwood, which is excellent and worth your time. I was pleasantly surprised to find myself enjoying Comrade Detective quite a bit. I’ve since dipped into Patriot & Philip K. Dick’s Electric Dreams; I’m still evaluating whether I’ll keep watching either of them.

    1. I fell asleep while watching the pilot of electric dreams. I like pkd’s overall vision, just not the film / tv adaptations.

      As far as wormwood goes, holy cows. I’m a fan of Morris’s overall work, but I felt this was some of the best he’s done. I went back to watch the fog of war after seeing The Post this weekend. On The Post, great acting, but if we already know the outcome the making of the sausage should be more interesting for lack of a better word.

      1. I was similarly blown away by Wormwood. I don’t want to gush, but I really admire how he was able to extend the story across a series without losing any of the intensity of focus displayed in his films.

        If you ask me, our greatest living documentarian sure ain’t Ken Burns.

        1. Absolutely. I remember walking away from the ‘conclusion’ thinking how this promising mind was wasted fighting the government for a truth that wouldn’t resolve anything anyway. How sad.

          1. Yeah. Eric Olson seems like a really interesting, thoughtful guy who (understandably) was drawn into what happened to his dad and never could escape from it. I’d like to know more about the Collage Method stuff he was working on at Harvard.

            Colby’s death always struck me as odd, and this didn’t lessen that feeling.

    2. I didn't realize Wormwood was from such a highbrow name. I guess I'll watch it.
      About how long are the episodes?

        1. Nice. I was fearing they'd be over an hour. I can do those, but I too often fall asleep in the middle of episodes. Under 50 minutes seems just right for me.

  2. I've had to watch Cars about 100 times recently. That was not Pixars best effort...

    That's about it. My movie watching this month has really been lax.

      1. Believe you me, I'm terrified of the possibility. Unfortunately, I have a feeling I won't be the one around when its discovered.

      2. I didn't mind either of the first two Cars films, though they're nowhere near the best Pixar's come out with.
        I assume Cars 3 is on the same level?

        I've fallen behind on Pixar films. I haven't seen The Good Dinosaur (a remake of The Good Son but with Culkin and Wood's parts being animated dinosaurs, right?) or Coco.
        Just checked the Wikipedia list... their next two are Incredibles 2 and Toy Story 3?
        As much as I'm probably going to like both of those... it's good to know that Miyazake is retired so that Totoro 2 or Mononoke 2 never get made.

        1. I checked way the hell out of Cars when they did that "back in the day" montage thing. I also find Owen Wilson's voice very annoying.

  3. 3 Billboards and The Post. Both lived up to the hype. lots of great performances, large and small. Two outstanding scripts.

    I do not understand or buy into the recent spate of elitists critiques of either.

    1. The one quibble I have with The Post is that Spielberg did not do a very good job of clarifying the timetable between Ellsberg's flight home from Vietnam with McNamara and when he started smuggling out copies of the reports.

      He was in Vietnam for two years, working for State. He started at State in August 1964. It wasn't until 1967 that he was working at RAND on the reports and not until 1969 that he began attending anti-war events. And not until late 1969 that he and Russo smuggled out the reports and made copies. Russo gets short shrift in the film. He tried to get both Fulbright and McGovern to release the documents in 1970.

      Also missing is the fact that Sen. Mike Gravel put almost the entire report into the Congressional Record on June 29, 1971, the day before the Supremes issued their decision. Bagdikian had given them to him.

      Odenkirk was great as Bagdikian.

      1. Gravel’s reading the Papers into the Record almost always goes unmentioned, which is both puzzling in general and not surprising in this case. Maybe it’s because the 1st Amendment/prior restraint issue is more interesting, but I’m not sold on that. At any rate, in times like these, Gravel’s conviction is noteworthy & instructive.

  4. We went to Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle last weekend and it was pretty darn fun. There's quite a few things I'd like to see from last year yet, but I just haven't had the chance.

      1. I have no idea why he's pushing this movie to be made, but it's the same director as the loud, stupid, and ultimately kinda fun San Andreas so I'll check it out. But I unabashedly love The Rock.

  5. So I’m wrapping up the first season of The Leftovers. It’s moody as all hell. Definitely worth the time. Carrie Coon is amazing.

    I also saw a version of Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit but edited to 2.5 hours. I had a lot of problems with the Jackson 3 movie version and didn’t even watch the 3rd movie I was so disappointed. The edited version was better and got rid of most of the egregious issues (no elf-dwarf love story). But in the end it still uses what Jackson put on film and is still disagree with those decisions. It’s worth your time if interested to see how this movie could be better.

    Did anyone see A Ghost Story? I loved that one too.

    1. I’ve been wanting to watch The Leftovers, but it’s not on either of the streaming services we pay for now. I’d be more likely to add HBO Now than Hulu, but I’m not sure a subscription to a third video streaming platform is sustainable for us.

      1. We have prime because dr. Chop reads for s living, and Netflix because Netflix and often a third rotating service depending on what they’re offering. We just canceled Hulu because Hulu, but will likely pick up some other option sooner or later. I figure the 40ish dollars per month is still cheaper than the cable bill for a pile of channels that I won’t watch.

        1. the cable bill for a pile of channels that I won’t watch
          Right. Netflix feels so cheap, even compared to the library (where the overdue fees from a month of movie requests is on the same scale). Plus, you don't run the embarassment of requesting Spring Breakers on the Homeschooling account.

      2. I have a Netflix account and the oldest has HBO2Go. We um... “guessed” each other’s passwords.

  6. I was home sick from work Thursday-Friday last week and still felt lousy through the weekend, so I really caught up on some NetFlix.

    1. The End of the Fxxxing World is probably the best film/TV thing I've watched in a long time. Eight episodes, 17-26 minutes. I watched two a night because I didn't want to binge through it. (One easily could; all in all its length is just that of a long feature.)
    Lots of cursing and violence for a well-earned TV-MA. Unless that's a problem (as it is for EAR), just go watch the first episode (which is 17 minutes).
    The lead actress is awesome and her physical appearance gave me a direct connection to the PG Aussie film Girl Asleep.

    2. Devilman Crybaby. Ten-episode anime that I can't imagine will have a second season. Cartoonish extreme sex and violence.
    And unfortunately I read a review after one episode (when wondering WTF and should I go forward) that spoilered a big plot point early.
    Also very good, but a few points didn't make a lot of sense to me. Seemed kindof sloppy, like it could have paced itself better, and let some points have more impact. (Some secondary characters are built up quite well and then dispatched in the background.)
    Reminding me a bit of my reaction to the Twilight movies, I would have been happy just to watch the main characters without the supernatural events. Unlike Twilight, I don't wish for that to the exclusion of the actual story
    Same animator as Samurai Champloo, which left Netflix before I could finish it.

    3. The Frozen Dead. A French murder-mystery miniseries set in the Pyrenees. Set exactly in my wheelhouse along with the Welsh Hinterlands, the Finnish Bordertown, the Icelandic The Lava Field, the Aussie The Code, and a bunch of others (mostly Scandanavian) I can't exactly recall.

    4. Dark. Looks like a German Stranger Things. I put a pause on this after two episodes because I got the storylines confused with those above. Seems promising.

    5. Planet Earth II. As good as anything else David Attenborough has narrated. The scene with hatchling Galapagos iguanas is about as amazing as the giraffe fight from Africa.

    6. Ultimate Beastmaster (Season 2). One of our family-viewing shows, it's more or less an American Gladiators x obstacle course gameshow, with 2 competitors from the same 6 countries each episode. Each country has their own native announcers but they interact. (A running gag on this season was the animosity between the Italians and French... only via the announcers, not the competitors.) HPR gets to watch something like sports while at the same time learning how to read a lot of subtitles.

    7. Strong Girl Bong-soon. I wrote about this two months or so ago, but set it to the side for a while. Still love it, now more than halfway through. In between the mystery and superpowers and physical comedy, the center of the story is a love triangle and I don't even know what way we're supposed to be hoping it goes.

    8. Dramaland. Kindof like Lost in Austen but with an American fan of Korean dramas. CER seemed interested after one episode. Ten short episodes so I'll probably commit. So far it's been 50% English and 50% Korean.

    I've tried a few other Korean shows (like some murder-mysteries) and they feel a bit too amateurishly made for me.
    I've noticed a few Turkish shows come up (I tried one episode of a long historical romance-drama a year or two ago). Maybe that's next...

    1. And there's still a bunch of Werner Herzog films I haven't watched yet. I just watch the two: Volcanoes and Antarctica over and over, when I want something sort of meditative I can watch while the kids are around.

      I've also eyed a comedy starring Michael Shannon (a regular actor for Herzog) called "Pottersville" on my queue for a while but haven't started it.

    2. I finished Ultimate Beastmaster. Very good finale.

      I finished The Frozen Dead. I realized it was based on the first of a series of detective/mystery books: good enough ending but leaving enough openings for sequels.
      If they make another season of the next book, will it be a separate season or a separate show?
      I became fascinated by the hair coloring that costar Nina Meurisse shows: an even gradient from blonde tips to brunette roots. It wasn't until the last episode that I realized it wasn't just brunette to the end. (She's on the left:)

      I just looked this up on Google. "Ombre Dye" and more often than not it looks horrible. So we're probably gonna see that a lot going forward.

  7. We watched Mad Max: Fury Road on and off during the game last night and then watched The Martian once we checked out of the purple beat down. I can watch Fury Road almost daily. The stunt work in that film is incredible, as are the landscapes and just the camera work in general. I was disappointed in my first viewing of The Martian. The effects were meh. I don't get the love affair many have for Matt Damon. The rest of the casting just seemed off too. I went in expecting to like it, but it was a let down.

    1. I loved The Martian, but I didn't get the casting of Chiwetel Ejiofor as the (obviously) Indian character Venkat Kapoor. And the "sermon" at the end was both unneeded and just plain wrong.

    2. Just watched The Martian. I just wish they could make a movie where you didn't already know everything that was going to happen. Agree that Damon was poorly cast - too much air-time does that. I would have preferred a more introverted, nerdly type. Also, they spent a lot of time on the potatoes, but kinda rushed thru the last 80 SOLs.

  8. Linds and I have been binging The Good Place, and that is a very good, very funny show.

    Yes, a spoiler for a half hour network sitcom SelectShow

    Haven't been watching much else lately.

  9. Since it was on NF, I started watching The Good Place. Surprised they took a chance on this with how high concept it is on paper, but it's a lot of fun. Went through the first season pretty quick. Also have now seen the first two episodes of the second season which really put an awesome spin on the first season.

    Actual Spoiler: S02E02 was pretty awesome SelectShow
    1. I was really not sold on the characters until about 6 or 7 episodes in, but they really work for me.

      And yeah, love the high concept of it. It's just weird that there's a show on Network TV that references Kant and talks about the philosophy of ethics constantly - and it's a very funny comedy!

        1. Janet has been the best since the very first time she's introduced. I'd say she accounts for a solid third of the laughs in any given episode.

    2. I went with the first season because when have I ever not liked a Schur show?
      I assume season 2 episodes are on Hulu? (Still got SiL's login on the BlueRay she gifted/hand-me-downed us, but I use it sparingly.)

      1. I'm through Season 1 b/c Netflix, waiting on Season 2 for availability and Philosofette's availability.

  10. Runner daughter and I are a couple eps into the latest X-files series. Thank God the pacing has slowed down from the opening episode -- both of us thought they were shoving a 1-½ hour into a one hour slot. Nothing overly exciting so far, but a worth extension to what's gone before. And CSM is still a dick.

  11. I missed last month...
    We poured through season 1 of Stranger Things over Thanksgiving weekend. That was a pretty good time, both in having something we were looking forward to each day and the show itself, of course.
    Haven't been able to do the same with season 2 because we were agreeing to chaperone the boy through it, but watching before his bedtime and ensuring the little girls are otherwise occupied has proved difficult.

    Wife and I got into Vikings. I knew there were multiple seasons, but still ended up starting on season three and made it half-way through the season before figuring out which one we were on. We thought the characters amusing enough to follow without the back story. Sign number 1 that something was amiss: we kept remarking to one another "It just feels like there should be some more history revealed with these characters..." Duh.
    Just finished season 1.

    Wife is also starting to watch The Crown. I want to see more, but seems like that's going to be her show when I'm not up for late night TV.

    1. The Crown was quickly consumed in our house and I caught most of it. I like it, much like I like Jane Austen adaptations, but it'd never be something I'd watch if it wasn't for EAR.

  12. I finished Breaking Bad early on Christmas Eve morning (like 3:00 AM, a six episode binge to end it).

    'Spoiler' SelectShow

    I'm now about halfway through season 2 of Better Call Saul. Like it, but not happy that season three is not on Netflix.

    1. The ending to BB was so perfect that I was disappointed that I didn't predict it.

      That last scene and the scene with Skyler in the kitchen were awesome.

  13. I watched through the entirety of Galavant. Meh. It went fast enough and was enjoyable enough, but I'm glad it wrapped when it did.

    Bad Christmas Movies:
    A Christmas Prince - The plot rests on a mistake that doesn't really make any sense. And then the key plot point is a secret that also didn't make any sense. And then another one after that. I guess it was pretty good for a bad Christmas movie.
    Christmas Inheritance - Sooooo bad. Perfect for mocking. Better than most for that, I think. The lead guy seemed like not a leading man at all. Andie MacDowell. She sings, for really no reason at all. The critical plot point, which everyone was planning around, apparently, was a spur of the moment decision by the lead character. Made no sense whatsoever. Hilariously bad.

    A few episodes of Planet Earth II. Not as good as the first one. Too many repeat topics. But the new stuff has been fantastic. Looking forward to seeing the last episode, looking at animals making cities their habitats.

    The Imposter - I felt like a documentary, and this one, about a guy who steals the identity of a missing kid, had been in my queue for a long time. It should have stayed there. This would have made a perfectly fine hour-long TV episode (Dateline, or somesuch), but it did not work as a documentary.

    Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee - Man, this is simply delightful. Highly recommend. Pick some of your favorite comedians and watch them chat with Jerry Seinfeld. Great stuff. Chris Rock has been a high point for me.

    1. I watched a few episode of Galavant in season one. For me it was inoffensive but just not funny enough to keep me going.

    2. I watched most of A Christmas Prince because my wife had it on, and then again when she let CER watch it.
      It wasn't until halfway thru the second time that I realized it was the gal from iZombie.

      Re: PEII. How do you feel about the hatchling iguanas scene?

      1. Loved the iguanas, but let's not pretend that was anything approaching the giraffe fight in Africa.

        1. It's like a nightmare or shooter video game on "expert" (or "difficult" or however they categorize 500 bad guys per room that see you immediately).
          The way the predators showed up out of every nook and cranny.

          1. Those snakes were everywhere. But it reminded me too much of the episode of PE I (or possibly Life) where the fish and the sea kraits team up to hunt, and then there are hordes of predators.

            The derivative feel hurt the overall quality a bit for me, both in that scene specifically and the series overall.

            1. I think that was in Blue Planet. That felt a bit different, as it was pack hunting, and the result was more like a fish "feeding frenzy".
              I felt there were a lot of scenes where I had only read about the animal or behavior before but never seen it, and I found that quite satisfying. Like they read through a bunch of nature writing and found the best things that no one had ever gotten decent video of before.

    1. Jóhann Jóhannsson score!
      "we merely bask in this union in all of its cuckoo crazy glory"
      Sounds like a perfect weirdo film for me to watch after my wife goes to bed. Hope it gets to Netflix.

  14. The complete Oscar nomination list:

    Best picture
    Call Me By Your Name
    Darkest Hour
    Dunkirk
    Get Out
    Lady Bird
    Phantom Thread
    The Post
    The Shape Of Water
    Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

    Directing
    Christopher Nolan (Dunkirk)
    Jordan Peele (Get Out)
    Greta Gerwig (Lady Bird)
    Paul Thomas Anderson (Phantom Thread)
    Guillermo Del Toro (The Shape Of Water)

    Actress in a leading role
    Sally Hawkins (The Shape Of Water)
    Frances McDormand (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)
    Margot Robbie (I, Tonya)
    Saoirse Ronan (Lady Bird)
    Meryl Streep (The Post)

    Actor in a leading role
    Timothée Chalamet (Call Me By Your Name)
    Daniel Day-Lewis (Phantom Thread)
    Daniel Kaluuya (Get Out)
    Gary Oldman (Darkest Hour)
    Denzel Washington (Roman J. Israel, Esq.)

    Writing (original screenplay)
    Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani (The Big Sick)
    Jordan Peele (Get Out)
    Greta Gerwig (Lady Bird)
    Screenplay by Guillermo Del Toro and Vanessa Taylor; story by Guillermo Del Toro (The Shape Of Water)
    Martin McDonagh (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)

    Writing (adapted screenplay)
    James Ivory (Call Me By Your Name)
    Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber (The Disaster Artist)
    Screenplay by Scott Frank, James Mangold and Michael Green; story by James Mangold (Logan)
    Aaron Sorkin (Molly's Game)
    Screenplay by Virgil Williams and Dee Rees (Mudbound)

    Animated feature film
    The Boss Baby
    The Breadwinner
    Coco
    Ferdinand
    Loving Vincent

    Music (original song)
    "Mighty River" by Mary J. Blige, Raphael Saadiq and Taura Stinson (Mudbound)
    "Mystery of Love" by Sufjan Stevens (Call Me By Your Name)
    "Remember Me" by Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez (Coco)
    "Stand Up for Something" by Diane Warren and Lonnie R. Lynn (aka Common) (Marshall)
    "This is Me" by Benj Pasek and Justin Paul (The Greatest Showman)

    Documentary (feature)
    Abacus: Small Enough To Jail
    Faces Places
    Icarus
    Last Men In Aleppo
    Strong Island

    Documentary (short subject)
    Edith + Eddie
    Heaven Is A Traffic Jam On The 405
    Heroin(e)
    Knife Skills
    Traffic Stop

    Foreign language film
    A Fantastic Woman (Chile)
    The Insult (Lebanon)
    Loveless (Russia)
    On Body And Soul (Hungary)
    The Square (Sweden)

    Actor in a supporting role
    Willem Dafoe (The Florida Project)
    Woody Harrelson (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)
    Richard Jenkins (The Shape Of Water)
    Christopher Plummer (All The Money In The World)
    Sam Rockwell (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)

    Actress in a supporting role
    Mary J. Blige (Mudbound)
    Allison Janney (I, Tonya)
    Lesley Manville (Phantom Thread)
    Laurie Metcalf (Lady Bird)
    Octavia Spencer (The Shape Of Water)

    Makeup and hairstyling
    Kazuhiro Tsuji, David Malinowski and Lucy Sibbick (Darkest Hour)
    Daniel Phillips and Lou Sheppard (Victoria & Abdul)
    Arjen Tuiten (Wonder)

    Film editing
    Paul Machliss and Jonathan Amos (Baby Driver)
    Lee Smith (Dunkirk)
    Tatiana S. Riegel (I, Tonya)
    Sidney Wolinsky (The Shape Of Water)
    Jon Gregory (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)

    Visual effects
    John Nelson, Gerd Nefzer, Paul Lambert and Richard R. Hoover (Blade Runner 2049)
    Christopher Townsend, Guy Williams, Jonathan Fawkner and Dan Sudick (Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2)
    Stephen Rosenbaum, Jeff White, Scott Benza and Mike Meinardus (Kong: Skull Island)
    Ben Morris, Mike Mulholland, Neal Scanlan and Chris Corbould (Star Wars: The Last Jedi)
    Joe Letteri, Daniel Barrett, Dan Lemmon and Joel Whist (War For The Planet Of The Apes)

    Music (original score)
    Hans Zimmer (Dunkirk)
    Jonny Greenwood (Phantom Thread)
    Alexandre Desplat (The Shape Of Water)
    John Williams (Star Wars: The Last Jedi)
    Carter Burwell (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)

    Short film (live action)
    DeKalb Elementary
    The Eleven O'Clock
    My Nephew Emmett
    The Silent Child
    Watu Wote/All Of Us

    Short film (animated)
    Dear Basketball
    Garden Party
    Lou
    Negative Space
    Revolting Rhymes

    Sound mixing
    Julian Slater, Tim Cavagin and Mary H. Ellis (Baby Driver)
    Ron Bartless, Doug Hemphill and Mac Ruth (Blade Runner 2049)
    Mark Weingarten, Gregg Landaker and Gary A. Rizzo (Dunkirk)
    Christian Cooke, Brad Zoern and Glen Gauthier (The Shape Of Water)
    David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Stuart Wilson (Star Wars: The Last Jedi)

    Sound editing
    Julian Slater (Baby Driver)
    Mark Mangini and Theo Green (Blade Runner 2049)
    Richard King and Alex Gibson (Dunkirk)
    Nathan Robitaille and Nelson Ferreira (The Shape Of Water)
    Matthew Wood and Ren Klyce (Star Wars: The Last Jedi)

    Costume design
    Jacqueline Durran (Beauty And The Beast)
    Jacqueline Durran (Darkest Hour)
    Mark Bridges (Phantom Thread)
    Luis Sequeira (The Shape Of Water)
    Consolata Boyle (Victoria & Abdul)

    Cinematography
    Roger Deakins (Blade Runner 2049)
    Bruno Delbonnel (Darkest Hour)
    Hoyte Van Hoytema (Dunkirk)
    Rachel Morrison (Mudbound)
    Dan Lausten (The Shape Of Water)

    Production design
    Sarah Greenwood and Katie Spencer (Beauty And The Beast)
    Dennis Gassner and Alessandra Querzola (Blade Runner 2049)
    Sarah Greenwood and Katie Spencer (Darkest Hour)
    Nathan Crowley and Gary Fettis (Dunkirk)
    Paul Denham Austerberry, Shane Vieau and Jeff Melvin (The Shape Of Water)

        1. It may be exactly that.

          Side note: I haven't seen it, and certainly don't care to, but friends have been fairly "meh" on it, and it's got a 50 on Metacritic and 52 on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm not saying it's Emoji Movie-level bad, but surely there are some other possibilities out there?

          1. It's not horrible like some of the crap I watched as a kid, or Pokemon shows.
            It has some good laughs, funny contrivances, and you get invested in the characters.
            I'd put it one notch above "meh": OK. It's not horrible to watch with your kids, but there's no need to watch it without children.

          2. *In a desperate attempt to redirect conversation to something I know something about*

            The original Boss Baby book is really cute--I loved reading it to my boys when they were younger.

      1. I'm still not over Your Name. getting snubbed last year. It wouldn't have won, but it should have been nominated since it's a wonderful film.

    1. I generally care most about Animated Feature.
      I've only seen one of the five (and this is the first I've heard of two of them).
      If Boss Baby wins either the voters are very wrong or it was a horrible year for animation.

      1. I just realized that My Little Pony: Friendship is Movie was snubbed.
        My kids would be crushed if they paid attention. I'd say I enjoyed MLP more than BB, but part of that could be already knowing the characters.

  15. Saw the first episode of David Letterman's new Netflix show where he interviews former president Barack Obama.

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    1. I wasn’t prepared for how misty eyed I would get seeing the former pres talking about things, but I totally lost it when he talked about his partnership with Michelle. Yeah, he used a robot drone death army and couldn’t close gitmo, but at least he wasn’t ever linked to an extramarital affair with a porn star.

  16. Ive been rewatching Star Trek Deep Space 9 and its too bad they never got a movie deal out of their show. Granted, some of the multi arc episode are pretty much a movie but imagine some of the Dominion War battle scenes with a multi million dollar budget

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