FMD 9/7/18: Let’s Talk Hip Hop

This post brought to you by the fact that the last two times I've gotten in the car I've heard, respectively, "U Can't Touch This" and "Gangsta's Paradise".

Hip hop is one genre where I often find myself lost. I know what I like (and it tends to be mainstream). I don't really know what I don't like (because my exposure is somewhat limited). I know that there are songs I tend to get tired of, and some that I could listen to a lot. I know that I don't know a lot about the history or movements or artists. I know a little, but that's pretty cursory. Anyway, it's a topic I can't speak knowledgeably about, but I'm guessing there are plenty of people here who can.


27 thoughts on “FMD 9/7/18: Let’s Talk Hip Hop”

  1. 1. Underworld “Cowgirl” Dubnobasswithmyheadman
    2. Invisible Conga People “Cable Dazed” Cable Dazed
    3. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy “I Am a Cinematographer” Sings Greatest Palace Music
    4. Eric Copeland “Louie, Louie, Louie” Limbo
    5. Schneider TM “Frogtoise (Exploitation Edit)” Frogtoise

    6. Boom Bip & Doseone “Slight” Circle
    7. Wallace Brothers “Thin Line Between Love & Hate” Soul Food (an E-6 Mix)
    8. Jane's Addiction “Summertime Rolls” Nothing's Shocking
    9. Nada Surf “Meow Meow Lullabye” For the Kids Too!
    T. Aphex Twin “Alberto Balsam” ...I Care Because You Do
    E. Neneh Cherry & The Thing “Accordion (Remixed by Hortlax Cobra)” * The Cherry Thing Remixes

    E. Madvillain (MF Doom and Madlib) cover. "Keep your glory, gold, and Glitter"

  2. This post brought to you by the fact that the last two times I've gotten in the car I've heard, respectively, "U Can't Touch This" and "Gangsta's Paradise".

    Yeeeeaaaaahhhh, that's not hip hop.

  3. Sorry. off the hip-hop discussion but here's a link to a band's song ranking! Bonus: It's written by SBGville's second most famous resident.

    Ol' Chuck definitely has a boner for the David Lee Roth version of Van Halen. I don't blame him and while I don't mind Van Hagar, I just think the DLR version (1.0) of the band had better songs. Few quibbles with the song rankings, but generally pretty good order.

    If you don't want to go through the analysis of all 131 songs, the opening write up is worth your while and spot on.

  4. My hips don't have much hop, so here's just the old guy's random ten:

    1. Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue--Crystal Gayle
    2. Aubrey--Bread
    3. Heart Hotels--Dan Fogelberg
    4. Baby Come Back--Player
    5. I'm Stone In Love With You--The Stylistics
    6. You Needed Me--Anne Murray
    7. If I Could Only Win Your Love--Emmylou Harris
    8. Still the One--Orleans
    9. Cool Change--Little River Band
    10. Hard to Say--Dan Fogelberg

  5. 01. VRY BLK ft. Noname (prod. By oddCouple and Kweku Collins) – Jamila WoodsHeavn
    02. Your Love Won't Let Me Leave You – Snoopy DeanEccentric Soul: The Outskirts Of Deep City
    03. Somebody To Love – Somebody To LoveA Day At The Races
    04. Cannons – Youth LagoonThe Year Of Hibernation
    05. Job Well Done (ft. Until The Ribbon Breaks) – El-P & Killer MikeRun The Jewels
    06. Raining In Darling – I See A DarknessBonnie "Prince" Billy
    07. Graveyard – Yeah Yeah YeahsMachine
    08 Brick – Alex GRocket
    09. Nameless Faceless – Courtney BarnettTell Me How You Really Feel
    10. Drunk – ThundercatDrunk

    1. Two things:
      1.This looks like fun.
      2. Despite nibs' and AMR's best efforts, this was my first (conscious) exposure to DJ Shadow, El-P or Killer Mike. So sick.


  6. 1. Since I Fell For YouRed Garland
    2. Close To YouFrank Ocean
    3. Trampled Under Foot Led Zeppelin
    4. You’ve ChangedKeith Jarrett
    5. GeorgiaVance Joy

    6. LoverIn The Valley Below
    7. Run For Your LifeThe Beatles
    8. Out Of My LeagueFitz & The Tantrums
    9. DashboardModest Mouse
    10. Mad WorldGary Jules

    B1. HashtagJane Doe

    No hip-hop today.

    I really enjoy the genre, but wouldn't claim to have a ton outside of the 'mainstream' ... This is probably familiar/similar to most white, Midwestern kids of the early 90's, my catalog & in order of exposure (generally & non-exhaustive): Beastie Boys, Dr. Dre, Snoop, Wu-Tang, Tupac, Biggie, LL Cool J, Warren G, Public Enemy, Puff Daddy, Jay-Z, Coolio, Busta Rhymes, Master P, Eminem, ICP (shudder), Method Man, Outkast, RZA/Bobby Digital, A Tribe Called Quest, DMX, Nelly ... yeah!

    Sophomore year, I lived with a guy from the South Side and we visited Chicago over spring break - my first exposure to Common, The Roots, bootleg tapes of rap battles featuring Eminem before Dre., J Dilla, Nas, Talib Kweli/Mos Def/Black Star and Canibus.

    While in the Navy, I recall being turned on to Hi-Tek, N.E.R.D., Lupe Fiasco, Kid Cudi, CeeLo, Lil Wayne and T.I.

    I don't buy many hip-hop albums anymore, but go out of my way to listen to newer stuff like Kendrick Lamar, Childish Gambino, The Weeknd, Frank Ocean, Rae Sremmurd and Post Malone to name a few.

  7. Speaking of Gangsta's Paradise, we were having a barbecue with and friends in Labor Day when Sheenie asked the Valet how old he thought she was. He said 23. I then answered, "23 now, but will she live to be 24? The way things are going, I don't know." And then everyone stared at me without apparently getting the reference.

  8. Rap music is the one genre where my tastes have shifted drastically over the years. I used to be obsessed with only listening to the most authentic underground hip hop I could find, the more local the better. But that kind of music bores me so much now that I'm older. Nowadays all I want to listen to is disaffected rich dudes rapping about how much xanax and lean they do. I think mainstream rap has gotten way better over the years, and I really love the creativity on the radio now. Future is a million times better than any rapper from 2000-2010. Rae Sremmurd are the most fun group in the world. I put Jeffery by Young Thug in my top five albums of all time. And this is going to sound hyperbolic but I think Lil Uzi Vert is the closest thing we have to Prince right now (not in terms of musical ability, but in terms of presence and style). I even like Drake! In short, rap music is great and keeps getting better.

    ^The above section is what I would have said back in 2016. Now in 2018 we have Tekashi 6ix9ine and Lil Pump and Lil Xan and SmokePurpp and I have no idea what the hell these kids are doing. The only teen rappers I like are Lil Skies and Juice WRLD. Most of the rest of them are incomprehensible.

  9. My first Hip-hop album was Naughty By Nature.
    I soon had Cypress Hill, The Predator, and Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde.
    Everything's gone downhill since then (only half sarcasm). I only blame half of that on Muggs running out of new beats. Maybe 10 percent belongs to Dizzee Rascal's "Bonkers", which I feel cut off a promising UK scene and sound before it had a chance to influence the US.

    I'm lost with the newest substyles and flows.

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