162 thoughts on “June 22, 2011: Get to Know ‘Em”

    1. he might have [does Dr. Evil impression] ONE THREE DOZEN friends!

      Give me some credit!

  2. Last night I did something I've never done before - left the ballgame early. The Redbirds hung 7 on the I-Cubs in the 7th to make it 10-3. After the 8th started much as the 7th left off, I said "Alright, lets go to the bar". I walk into the bar and the Twins are on, and it's 8-0 after a half inning. I just missed all the run scoring.

  3. The Minnesota Empire Builders steamrolled the Detroit Wolverines 4-1 in the League Championship Series to earn their second consecutive trip to the World Series in 1972 of the Antiquity League (on OOTP 11). Despite having the fourth lowest payroll in the league (out of 18 teams), I tied the league record (47-seasons in league history thus far) for most regular season wins.

    Of course, I have to play Havana - probably the most storied franchise in league history - to win the Fall Classic. Last year, my guys lost the first three games of the World Series before rallying back (with a 3-run rally in the ninth inning of Game 4) and then losing by one run with the winning run on base in Game 7. Hopefully, we get off to a slightly better start this time.

    OOTP 12 just came out this week. I highly, highly recommend it for anyone looking to completely lose all of their free time.

    2. I pre-ordered OOTP 2012 and have been playing out the 2011 season. I'm currently in a 1-1 ALDS tie against the Red Sox; however, I likely wouldn't have gotten there without trading Capps and Laddie for Daniel Bard and Jed Lowrie before the season started. My bullpen is now Nathan, Bard, Mijares, Slama, Burnett (long man), and Waldis Joaquin, who I snagged off waivers out of San Francisco. Joaquin stuck out 38 in 35.1 with a 0.88 WHIP innings down the stretch. Gibson also had a fine year as the #4 starter (the Yankees offered me Granderson for Pavano, and I didn't think twice).

      Here's part of my scouting director's report on _elm_n:

      Eye: He's a strikeout waiting to happen; swings at bad pitches and has trouble with the breaking stuff.

      Personality/Makeup: Young is not very bright.

      It's okay, though, because he's now in Atlanta's organization.

      For anyone on the fence about OOTP, I've been getting it since OOTP9 and have never regretted the purchase.

      2. Personality/Makeup: Young is not very bright.

        But, but, but I was at a game this year and the scoreboard said his favorite book was Of Mice and Men. Maybe just because it's short...

              1. I thought it was appropriate that this was the 20000th comment

                Which of course was noted immediately.

        2. Hey, for all we know, Delmon will write the next Great American Novel, but his high IQ just doesn't translate to a baseball field.

          1. "We are sharks," infielder Alexi Casilla said Thursday.

            "Sharks?" chimed in outfielder Delmon Young. "Maybe remora fish. They hang around the sharks.

            "We're a bunch of vultures, scavengers, this year."

            This quote the other day did kind of leave me thinking that Delmon might be a little more interesting than I initially suspected.

            2. I wouldn't be surprised if Delmon Young the person is somewhat fascinating. As far as I can tell, he never seems to say much to the press, but has also managed to stay in their good graces. I feel like we know a lot about Delmon the player, but I don't think I've ever seen him profiled outside of stories related to the bat-throwing incident. That, his status as first-overall pick in the draft, and no one doubting his talent have so overwhelmed the narrative with Delmon that they've crowded out anything else. For all I know, Delmon was a great student in high school and that was one of the reasons Tampa Bay figured he'd be able to put everything together when they picked him first overall.

                1. Maybe he's just in a hurry to finish his at-bats so he can get back to reading!

              2. Wasn't there an MLB-films type thing a couple of years ago about the Young family (specifically Dmitri, Delmon, and their father)? I never saw it, but I remember such a thing existing.

                1. I think I vaguely heard about it, but I never got to see it. That is the other angle on Delmon, I guess, that his older brother was also in the majors. I'd be curious to see that film if it is kicking around somewhere.

                2. I did see it. Delmon spoke interestingly enough, but he was quite young and full of himself at the time and he spent most of the show lightly patting himself on the back. I'd like to see one now that he's had a mixed bag in the majors.

      1. Seconded. I am watching tomorrow's events through slightly spread fingers - my hands placed firmly in front of my eyes.

        1. I just assume they will shock us all and select Jimmer Fredette second and I can then just start looking for a new team.

          1. Me: Heh.

            Kahn: "Dynamic, determined, competitive, and a good kid. Hey, he may be a bit small, but he fills our shooting guard needs?"

            1. I totally laughed when I pictured Kahn saying "he fills our shooting guard needs" as a question.

              1. I feel like everything Kahn says is a question...or at least open to interpretation.

      2. Would it be that terrible if the Wolves got Nash and the #13 for the #2? I guess it's terrible from the standpoint that you don't have enough minutes for both Rubio and Nash, but no one seems to be all that high on anyone from this draft.

        I have been big on pushing the MLB model of developing players in the minor leagues on the NBA, but I've found that I also like soccer's idea of a reserve league. It allows players who are good enough to make the bench but not play much to get playing time in fairly meaningless, but competitive games. In the NBA, they could, say, increase the roster size to 20, and then schedule 30-40 reserve games throughout the season. Players who only get 10-15 minutes in the league games could get 35-40 minutes in reserve games. That way, you could have a situation where Nash plays most of the minutes for the Wolves, Rubio gets his feet wet from the bench, and stays sharp by starting for the reserve squad. It also gives bench players more minutes to make a case for why they should get more time with the first team.

        1. I like Nash as a player/mentor and draft picks are almost always overvalued... but the problem with this is that Nash is a free agent after this year (if it even gets played). So we lose 3-4 years of cheap high-ceiling talent for at best a year of a HOF player who is not going to put us in championship contention.

          1. I guess I really put a high value on getting this team out of the bottom of the basement. Chemistry only counts so much, but losing four of every five games and playing 2-3 months with no hope in sight just seems so demoralizing to me.

            The rub, I figure, is how likely the draft pick is to come even close to his ceiling. If you think of the roster as a collection of bets, it's good to have some high-risk, high-reward bets in your portfolio. But if you continue to stockpile high-risk, high-reward bets, you're likely to only every have one or two good players at any given time. At some point, trading a little upside for some certainty is a good thing to balance things out.

            I'd guess, and this is a guess, that with a weak draft class, if you're banking on upside, the difference between #2 and #13 isn't that big, and might be worth some near-term wins.

    2. Very nice. I'd read a couple of positive reviews, but this is the first I've heard from them. Safe to say, it won't be the last.

      1. I would have mentioned them a while back if I'd known they weren't already a favorite around here. They were responsible for the one and only song on my store's 40-minute playlist that I like.

          1. I mistakenly lumped her in with the Adele/Duffy/Kate Nash Brit revivalist thing. (No offense to those girls, but they got nuffin' on Dusty Springfield.) Sounds to me like Florence drinks from an entirely different cup.

  6. Alexi Casilla now has a .708 OPS on the season. The average AL second baseman has a .685 OPS.

    2. Able to climb ladders and lift up to thirty-five pounds
      Bachelor degree required
      Master degree in Library and Information Science (MLIS) from an ALA-accredited program preferred

      I always assumed that a MLIS required no actual heavy lifting.

    3. I was really hoping there wouldn't be any education requirements. Sadly, they snuck it in at the bottom.

      1. only "preferred". Magoo's got a fighting chance. All he has to do is win the Royal Rumble.

    4. You applied, right? How many librarians even know what the WWE is? I'll bet you could convince them a historian would suit their needs perfectly.

          1. I enjoyed my time there. The campus was nice enough, especially for a smallish public university. The fieldhouse and student/staff gym is very nice and cheap, if that's a concern. Its also in a smallish town (about 18,000 or so, I believe), so it does get a bit crowded when the students are around but is a terrific place to be in the summer. I still miss having burgers at the Waterfront bar on the back deck overlooking the lake. There's a pretty decent disc golf course in town, if that's your thing, and a curling club in Eau Claire, which is about 20 minutes away. And, its an hour-ish drive to Twins games.

            I can't really say what things are like in the buildings you would probably be spending most of your time in, if you pursued things there, as I spent most of my time down in the engineering/sciences buildings.

              1. Also, if it helps, Joe Vavra played there and graduated in the same degree program as I did, coincidentally enough. I thought I had heard he still lives in the area, in case you moved there and wanted to give him any advice on how to make Joe Mauer hit better.

              2. I was expecting "if no one calls, go to River Falls", but jeez, you win. I didn't even realize there was anything above high school in Tomah.

      2. I am an Augsburg grad, but I had little interaction with the history department. One general ed requirement and one senior-year elective with a prof I liked, who must have retired by now. Wait-no, he's still listed on the webpage.

        I don't see much for graduate studies, what is available there?

        1. Augsburg and UW-Stout are both employment opportunities, not graduate studies. The former is in the International Students office and the latter is in the archives.

            1. Looking at the map, what is considered NE Minneapolis? Is that Jordan, Fowell, or Lee Park? Or is it further out, like Maple Grove or Brooklyn Park?

              1. NE is basically any part of Minneapolis that is north and east of the Mississippi River, west of Hwy 280 (Lauderdale), and south of St. Anthony/Columbia Heights. It's a fairly tight little community. Jordan, Folwell, and Lee Park are considered parts of the "Near North" neighborhood and Maple Grove/Brooklyn Park are second ring suburbs.

                1. And they're west and northwest of Minneapolis respectively. I would recommend staying away from the Jordan and Folwell areas as well, unless it's changed substantially for the better in the past ten years.

              2. There's always Stillwater. A bit of a drive to Augsburg (or Stout, for that matter), but it produced me so it has to be awesome.

          2. Aren't you trying to flee?

            Oh, and if you didn't see my note the other day, I'll bring your ticket to the game on Saturday. Sheenie and I will be getting there pretty early to help set-up, but the tailgating starts at 5pm (first pitch at 7:05).

            1. Slight distinction there: not flee, move.

              Excellent. I invited a few others as well. Not sure that they'll make it, but I've put the word out.

              1. If any are interested, shoot me an email and I can make sure we still have a ticket. I think we have about 20 left at this point, so it probably won't be a problem.

        1. Five classmates and I met him on the street during a class trip in 6th grade, and he smiled the whole time (which was probably just a minute or so, but whatever). It really did feel weird.

  9. A question for the nation's composters and gardeners: How often do you turn the stuff over? I built a two chamber compost site out of old pallets and have had pretty good success with making some rich earth, but I'm curious if I can achieve faster results with a little more maintenance?

      1. I believe my pile falls firmly into the "Casual" category. I really need to turn that damn thing.

        1. We have something like this, which works out fairly well. We always forget to rotate it, so it's taking a little longer than it could, but it contains the mess nicely.

        1. Yes, although I believe that most California piles are running a deficit, smell bad, and probably need to be turned over more frequently.

      3. I can see it now

        WARNING: This pile may contain chemicals, including lead, known to the State of California to cause cancer, and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Wash hands after handling.

  10. Gleeman makes his bid to be appointed the Twins' VP-Common Sense:

    what struck me is how much different the perception of his injury would've been had everyone involved simply called it complications from offseason knee surgery.

    2. Then we'd be hearing all the back-seat doctors talk about how the Twins totally handled Mauer's situation wrong. Either way, it's a pretty annoying story. And we'd still have people questioning why he couldn't make it back sooner from the surgery.

      The perception of this injury might also have been different if Mauer was a Chatty Cathy and gave the media some more soundbites. (Though I don't really think he has a big responsibility to be best buds with the media when he's on the DL.) Because ultimately, even if the Twins' headline was "bilateral leg weakness," anyone digging a millimeter below the surface could tell that Mauer was having difficulties coming back from the offseason knee surgery in time for the regular season. The media could have reported the story a lot more accurately than they did, but decided to run with the weakness thing because it allows them to get all high and mighty while racking up page views.

      1. Then we'd be hearing all the back-seat doctors talk about how the Twins totally handled Mauer's situation wrong.

        The thing is, there are fans who don't trust the Twins' medical staff anymore, and there seems to be at least some justification for their suspicion of any medical opinion, not just those pertinent to Mauer. I think it goes beyond simply calling those fans a bunch of back-seat doctors; the timetables given for Nishioka's return, for example, were either wildly optimistic, marketing driven, or the product of a B-squad medical team.

        Nor are the Twins alone in this regard - much of the same was said about the Royals a few years ago. Obviously there's a limitation to what anyone without access to medical records can conclude, but I'd certainly be appreciative of any Twins blogger with medical credentials who sought to give fans more perspective/context than what is supplied by the front office or their remoras in the media.

        1. I think it's a lot harder to evaluate a team's medical staff through publicly available information than it is to evaluate a team's players through publicly available information, and I think a lot of fans (the sort that have been calling out Mauer as a p*ssy and who would instantly trash the team's docs if the company line was complications from knee surgery) aren't that great at evaluating players in the first place.

          It also becomes more complicated to evaluate a medical staff with players seeking out second and third opinions and seeing specialists that are not on the team's staff.

          the timetables given for Nishioka's return, for example, were either wildly optimistic, marketing driven, or the product of a B-squad medical team.

          They quoted 4-6 weeks and I wasn't following closely when he started playing again, but some internet searching turned up a report that said he started playing extended spring training games on May 27th. So that's 7 weeks. Yes, longer than the reported time frame, but when the time frame already has a 2-week margin of error, being off by a week doesn't seem crazy. I'm sure the team kept him in the minors for further instruction as much as for health reasons.

          1. I was under the impression that when a team quotes a time to return, it's to the active roster, not minor league rehab games.

            Like I said above, it's not an exact science, but I do think there's room in the Twins blogosphere for someone with medical credentials to give fans better perspective on injuries than they're getting from the team or the media. That's not going to stop the Stribber chorus, but once you cut off one avenue of complaint they're just going to find another anyway. Fans who are more interested in the team might find the sort of context I mentioned worthwhile.

  11. Has anyone else ever had a rib out of place? Just a few days ago I was telling someone about my one bout with that issue five years ago, and it happened again last night. It's just a constant, not-quite-excruciating pain that makes me worthless to my wife and daughters and will most likely pop back into place on its own time.

    Damn it.

    1. My father got into running a few years ago. Anyway, he pushed himself about 2 months ago with my sister-in-law who was training for Grandma's Marathon and doubled his usual distance. He was in great pain the next day and thought he had broken a rib or something (how that happens running is beyond me). The pain never subsided so he finally went to a doctor and discovered he had a pulmonary embolism. Pretty scary stuff for a guy who is in fantastic shape for his age.

      1. I can attest to the scariness of that, although I doubt I was in as fantastic a shape.

        1. Will do, but he seems to think it was no big deal. His doctor (and Sheenie's father and sister who are both also doctors) are much more concerned and wish he would be just a little bit more proactive about trying to figure out how it was caused. I think I heard that his doctor wanted to send him to Mayo for a day because he pretty much defies every common characteristic for the embolism.

    2. My wife has- chiropractor took care of it quickly, but he made it sound like a very unusual thing to have happen.

  12. Over on Twitter some PMac/Seth discussion of a Twins lineup if everyone was healthy. Here's mine:

    Span 7
    Casilla 4
    Mauer 2
    Morneau 3
    Cuddy 9
    Kubes/Thome DH (righty/lefty split)
    Valencia 5
    Nishi 6
    Revere 8

      1. Span's not all that fast, so even if he's an effective CF, he's probably never going to look like a great one, especially compared to faster players. His overall defensive stats still underwhelm me. Going by the numbers at Fangraphs, he's got a below average arm in CF and has a roughly average UZR/150G.

        I bet it's largely a perception thing, too. Span has hit much better as a corner OF than he has as a CF. This is almost certainly a fluke thing, but people have had more positive feelings about Span when he's been in a corner, so it could contribute to an underlying desire to see him moved back there.

        Revere's out-of-zone plays per nine innings rate is slightly higher than Span's, too, which probably means a good chance Revere might have made a good first impression on people with a few impressive highlights.

        I would probably gravitate towards putting Revere in LF since he's got the lesser of the two arms, but that's assuming we could move Delmon to RF when Delmon plays the OF.

        1. Going by the numbers at Fangraphs, he's got a below average arm in CF and has a roughly average UZR/150G.

          I assume you're going by career numbers because his numbers for this year are fantastic. He's second in UZR/150 in all of baseball CF to Shane Victorino. All the metrics pretty much agree that Span has been one of the best this year. The Twins' outfield defense across the board has been much improved this year. I would interested in somebody looking into that. Could it be the Twins are out of the Metrodome and it just took a year to adjust? Or have the metrics changed somehow? Also, Revere has had some fantastic-looking plays, but wasn't there questions about his defense in the minors as far as running routes and getting jumps on the ball?

          1. Of course I'm going by his career numbers. Do you believe he's really 30 runs per season better at fielding CF this year than he was last year? I think it's a lot more likely that he's about average in CF and you'd have to be donning your rose-colored specs to think his 477 innings this year should be weighted more heavily than his 1349 innings last year.

            1. Have you been watching? Span has been terrific this year and the metrics agree with that. I just get tired of the same old SSS mantra. What is SSS? When is it no longer SSS? Three months? A year? a year and a half? Two Years? I usually hear three years. What about two years and five months? Is that not enough?

              I can understand it with hitting and pitching stats that players just go through hot stretches. Is it the same with defense? If so, why not give the guy credit? Kubel has been hitting great this year. Kubel is the man! Way to go Jason Kubel! Span has been playing great defense this year. Delmon has been much improved. Do I hear "Yay, Denard Span. Way to go Delmon. Nice job!" No, it's "Eh, SSS." If the metrics are just wrong and neither has been very good, then how can we trust them for a "complete" sample size.

              Do you believe he's really 30 runs per season better at fielding CF this year than he was last year?

              Do hitters improve that much from one season to the next? Jose Bautista has, hasn't he?

              I guess the big question is are you saying he hasn't been that good or that he won't keep it up? Hitters and pitchers go through hot streaks and perform above their head. We don't say they haven't performed well, we say they've been amazing but they won't keep it up. Is defense any different? And if you can't believe the defensive stats over a few months, how can you believe them over a few years? How do we know which months the stat had it right and which months it had it wrong? If any of it is wrong, it's all wrong, isn't it?

              1. Half a season of defensive stats are about the equivalent of a month of hitting stats. Guys have hot and cold months all the time that aren't definitive one way or the other. Jose Bautista had a great month of May last season, and I highly doubt anyone looked at that month as definitive as far as his having improved versus being a favorable temporary uptick until he finished the year with a great July, August, and September too.

              2. Jose Bautista has, hasn't he?

                No, he really hasn't. Bautista went from being about an average hitter (roughly .330 wOBA) to being an elite hitter. You're saying that Span went from being a really terrible CF to being an absolutely elite CF.

                Span's had a couple of good months in the field, good on him. That doesn't mean I think he's going to be an above average CF going forward. (Just like if Drew Butera hits .280 for a month, I still think he'll be a terrible hitter going forward.) If the Twins brought in Carlos Gomez tomorrow, I'd move Span to a corner in a heartbeat. The question with Span vs. Revere is whether Revere is more like Gomez or Span.

                1. Span's had a couple of good months in the field, good on him. That doesn't mean I think he's going to be an above average CF going forward.

                  That I'll accept and most likely agree with. However, your original question was worded so it seemed to be more about performance instead of forecast.

          2. Or could it be, maybe, possibly, that you keep citing "much improved" numbers that are two-plus months of data of a statistic that takes about three years to stabilize? Nah, couldn't be that.

        2. Span's not all that fast
          Huh? His "speed score" from FanGraphs is 6.9 for his career (5 is average). That puts him at 21st out of 270 over the last four years (min 1000 PA).

          Revere might have made a good first impression on people with a few impressive highlights.
          This is what it feels like.

          While I'm not against having Revere in center and Span elsewhere, I do think we need more data first. Span's potentially lengthy DL stay is rather convenient for this case.

          1. "Not all that fast" meaning that he's not well above average for his position. As a comparison, Gomez and Revere seemingly kill Span in speed, and those are both players that fans have seen him play side-by-side with.

            Also, speed score depends on your baserunning intelligence and to some degree a team's tendency to give its players the green light. Gomez, for instance, has done a good job at improving his SB%, but I highly doubt he's any faster these days than he was when he got caught 11 times in '08.

            Like I said, if it's just a matter of Span and Revere, ignoring the rest of the team, I'd lean toward Span in CF and Revere in LF. I'm just laying out the reasons why I think people aren't that attached to keeping Span in CF.

            1. Fair enough. I wish players were timed running the bases and we had access to the timings.

              1. I would so love to know how long it takes hitters to get to first base and other such assorted goodness. In the past, I've contemplated bringing a stopwatch to games, at the risk of ridicule from my friends. So far the potential ridicule has won out, but some day perhaps I will man up.

                1. If you wanted to be methodical, could use highlights on MLB.com or archived games from MLB.tv.

        3. I agree that Revere's arm belongs in LF, not CF. Still, with Revere in left, I would think Span could better cover center, and even cheat towards right a bit and help out there.

    2. Platooning Kubel/Thome is tough cause Thome, while better against lefties than Kubel, isn't really good against them either. I'd actually think something like a Kubel/Cuddyer platoon in right and a Thome/Delmon platoon at DH would make more sense.

      1. I'm with DK here. You can also then plug Cuddy/Kubel/elmn into 1B/RF/LF to give guys off here or there, too.

        I also wouldn't hesitate to put Nishi in the two hole if Lexi struggles for a week or two.

      2. Ever since Spookymilk Survivor VII, I've been very wary of him, but I can't see how this will come back to bite me, so I too endorse the DK plan.

    4. Revere isn't going to replace Delmon at this point, especially considering Delmon has been hitting much better and even with his horrendous start, Delmon's OPS is better than Revere's. Revere would be a better fourth outfielder than Repko, but I doubt the Twins would do that. With no Delmon in there, that lineup is just begging to be dominated by a lefty reliever since the only right-handed power is Cuddyer and Valencia.

      2. With Delmon on the bench, why not bring him off the bench against lefty relievers?

      3. I think it's important to note that at this exact point in time, Delmon's "better" OPS is better by all of one point (.602 vs .601). On the other hand, Revere's wOBA (which weighs OBP and SLG more appropriately than OPS does) is .278 thus far compared to Delmon's .270.

        1. Delmon's career OPS .748. Revere's OPS in the minors is .793, but he hasn't topped .741 in the three highest levels. I love Revere, but when the lineup is healthy, we already have three slap-hitting speedsters that are left-handed or switch hitters. If Delmon is hitting well, he needs to be in the lineup to balance it out with power from the right side.

          1. Hence my suggestion above: use Delmon as the primary DH against lefthanded starters. And ubes' suggestion above: use Delmon off the bench against lefthanded relievers.

    1. A few things:

      1. I loved the guy kicking his bike as it went past him.
      2. It took two guys to pick up each bike at the end, so what the eff did the one guy think he was going to do if he could have grabbed his?
      3. I am impressed the other racers didn't also crash from laughing.

  14. Hey I may have missed it last week, but didn't a Citizen just win a bet on when Jeter would get his 3000th hit?

  16. Nathan and Thome to return Friday! Thome can only pinch hit in Milwaukee, obviously, but at least we have that option off the bench. I would think that Hoey will be gone. He hasn't pitched in a while and Burnett and Dumatrait have both been trusted with higher leverage situations than Hoey. I imagine one of the catchers will be gone. We'll see if Rivera's handling of Liriano will keep him on the roster, especially after Pavano survived throwing to Mauer. No surprise, but the Twins have the same lineup tonight, other than Blackie of course.

    1. Hard to say how much working for Kahn was the problem, but it seems like he should have been able to do better than a 20% winning percentage. I know he had crap to work with, but there also didn't seem to be any sign that he was getting the most from what little he did have.

      1. I am usually among the last to say "fire the coach" - I stuck with Chilly until the Moss fiasco -- and gave Rambis a long leash. But the guy's rotations made no sense, his in-bounds plays were poorly designed, defense (his supposed strength in LA) was awful, I got no sense that he was a great motivator, and so on.

        1. His defense made no sense, it wasn't a coincidence that so many players had great nights shooting the 3 against the Timberwolves.

          I'm not really a fan of coaches who choose to force their systems upon a team, personnel be damned, and Rambis was guilty of that with his 'pack-it-in' D and triangle.

          It is a good thing that he'll never coach Ricky Rubio.

  18. Attention pinch-hitters: yickit won't be able to write up the game log, so if you want to grab it, say so. If nobody speaks up I'll throw one together.

  19. Can someone grab the game log tonight. Hate to do it again but I'm knee deep in work. Lame. And not wgomerific.

  20. Oh crud, that Redwings/Twins Jersey auction closed at 8pm eastern. Duh!
    Chuck James went for $100, Nieto Mosquito for $125, and Toby G for $102.
    Scott Diamond was max for $500, and Nick Romero went for the minimum $25 bid.

    I just realized also that they didn't mention measurements. James is listed as 6'0", 190, so his might not have been too big.

    There are two other auctions, but they stink: Star Wars night and Prostate Cancer Blue Jersey night.
    I'd be interested in a plain Chuck James Redwings jersey for the same price range.
    Or maybe I can find a Twins game-used one in the discount bin at next year's Twinsfest. His major-league number is 44.

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