The Spurs come to Target Center with a 12-6 record, but only 2-6 on the road. The Wolves are 8-10 on the year and 4-6 at home. The last time these two teams met the Wolves were on the winning end, but also had Michael Beasley scoring points. Good news for the Wolves is that it sounds like the team is getting healthier now with Ridnour expected back and we might see Martell Webster and Brad Miller play some minutes. Beas is a game time decision.
Go Wolves
- davidwatts
Pek! starting tonight because Darko is sick
traveling!
Wolves now with 5 turnovers in their first 3 possessions. I wouldn't have even thought that was possible.
Tom Hammond just called Tim Duncan 'Timmy'. gross
TIMMAY!
That never gets old to me. I want to see Duncan say it, now.
The rubioop will never get old, my word
agreed
nice teardrop by Rubio
Why does Pek like offensive boards so much more than defensive rebounds?
fact: coming into the game Pek! had 2 more defensive rebounds (108) than offensive rebounds (106) in his short career, and had a 16/5 off. reb to def. reb. split this season
I wonder if there's ever been another player with rebound #'s like that- I can't imagine it's a sustainable trend, but Pek's done it for a few years, right?
Moses comes to mind. 7.2 DRB to 5.1 ORB for his career.
Interesting lineup on the floor for the Wolves- AR, D-Will, Wayne, Luke and Beas.
I was just about to comment on this. I looked at the floor and said "who do we have out there?" It just looked weird.
i'm not sure if SCB knows which team he's on.
That explains the two assists, then.
By my count, that's three power forwards and two shooting guards, right?
a veteran guard, a rookie, and 3 enigmas
Sanity is returning.
i saw meat's banner, and this immediately sprung to mind. thanks, meat.
OMG, awesome.
I've already added it, dude.
i know, i just wanted to show it off a little. 😉 this seemed like the right place to do it.
I hate it when a player misses a shot and Hanneman says "he couldn't pull the trigger." He did pull the trigger dude, he just missed the shot.
you mean he fisted it?
Yeah, let's go with that!
Hanneman: Tim Duncan, one of the best, if not the best, of all time.
Does anyone think Tim Duncan is the best player of all time?
Best BB player of all time from the Virgin Islands, sure.
I'm not a basketball nut, but...top 50?
Oh, absolutely. Higher than that. But, I don't think he's more then about 20.
nevermind.
really?
I'd have to think real hard about Karl Malone vs Duncan for best PF (McHale is close behind)
If it means anything, basketball-reference.com has 171 WS for Duncan vs 234 WS for Malone.
Duncan is 10th all-time in WS/48. Malone is 18th.
Ah, a compiler. One of those.
See below. If Duncan plays to 40 like Malone did, his WS/48 will fall below Karl's.
Malone's career WS/48 was .205. That included marks of .155, .182 and .151 his last three seasons.
Remove those years and his career WS/48 through his age-37 season was .2116. Duncan, in his age-35 season is at .215 for his career. So, yea, unless he cranks it up this year (he's at a career-worst-by-far .120 so far this season), he's pretty clearly going to drop below Malone before he retires.
Duncan has had double-digit win shares in 12 of his 14 seasons. Malone had 14 double-digit win share seasons in 19 years.
That doesn't change my opinion. If I had to choose between the two at their peaks, I'd choose Duncan. Not by much, but still, I'd choose him.
At the start of the game, he at least classified it under power forwards, though I disagreed then too.
I know count the rings, but for my money, Karl Malone is the best PF ever.
Absolutely. My first guess was Barkley, who seems to be roughly equal now with Duncan. After looking up Duncan I remembered Malone and it's not even close.
Bill Simmons says Duncan is 7th best. I can't agree with that.
12. Moses Malone
11. Shaquille O’Neal
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
8. Jerry West
7. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Larry Bird
4. Magic Johnson
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2. Bill Russell
1. Michael Jordan
Duncan > Shaquille? That's ridiculous.
More interesting to watch, maybe, but...ugh. That's the pairing I would have picked out of there, too.
definitely NOT "more interesting to watch". but technically beautiful, yes. There's a reason they call him "the Big Fundamental".
1. Kareem
2. Wilt
3. MJ
4. Oscar
5. Russell
6. West
7. Shaq
8. Bird
9. Magic
10. Dr. J
11. Hakeem
12. Duncan
13. Malone/Barkley
15. McHale
I'm sure that if I thought harder about this, I'd shuffle names around some more
I would say he's comfortably more interesting to watch than Shaq. O'Neal, like any huge brute who pounded it inside, is the only type of player less interesting to me than Duncan.
Duncan is a shell of his former self at 35. Malone played until he was 40. If Duncan plays 5 more years, his WS/48 will be safely under Malone's. But yes, Shaquille was a lot more entertaining than Duncan.
Man, I can't see that. Shaq gets my vote for least entertaining superstar ever. Maybe I didn't see enough of his work.
Shaq had absolutely fantastic footwork. yes, he was a huge brute, but man, he had great footwork.
and not entertaining? Dude, haven't you seen Kazaam??
but seriously, he had/has a very entertaining personality.
7th best overall or power forward? Former I can't agree with either while power forward seems somewhat reasonable. A quick search on basketball-reference.com lists him as fifth for forwards.
Once upon a time, Dirk won an MVP award. So by that logic, it's not too much of a stretch to call him the best of all time.
Wolves very small right now: Luke, Ricky, Martelll, D-Will, Love.
That's the second interesting lineup that's been out there tonight. I love Adelman.
They've got some TNT halftime show going on on League Pass. Wow, Shaq is really, really annoying. I used to think he was funny. Apparently he's only funny with a healthy dose of editing.
I always thought he was annoying. Then again, I wasn't a real basketball fan until after KaZaam, so my vision is a bit skewed.
You missed out on Blue Chips? Oh, that's quite a shame.
Pekawhirl!
He is abusing Duncan!
Pek must be 6th best.
Look, I'm just going to go ahead and say it. PEK! is the best of all time.
I imagine New Guy is squeeling like a teenage girl right now.
I was swooning hard.
My stream is a couple of minutes behind, apparently.
Rubio's no-look passes seem to catch his teammates unaware more often than I would like.
PEK!PEK!PEK!
ZOMG!ZOMG!ZOMG!
Ah geez, finally found a reasonable stream.
And just in time for one of those awesome Rubio passes down the lane for easy points.
d-span2!
Incmikowski stalking Span now.
Really, can you blame him?
Does that Green fella have a death wish, whacking Pek like that?
in soviet russia, pek whacks you!
Wolves 1 for 8 from 3-pt land. The score makes more sense to me now.
I don't like Beasley.
I've been thinking. I wonder if that dog collar thing from that soccer video yesterday would work to make him quit f'in shooting.
I second this idea!
Please, let's make this happen!
They may not need it, as I think Williams is slowly making Beasley more or less irrelevant.
Does it have the same effect if you are high?
I don't think anyone blames you for that.
they throw the ball in the post to Beas, he doesnt even look around
threebio!
Rubio just likes dribbling around.
Ok, so did Jefferson get a technical for complaining, or is that not a thing anymore?
No, the official was just signaling time out.
Oh I know, that's what I'm annoyed about. I was under the impression that whiny stuff was being cracked down on, but apparently it was just to make sure Rasheed Wallace never played again.
Remember that playoff game where he got ejected just for looking at the ref? Good times.
PEK!!!!!!!
PEK!
Butch is calling Pek Igor.
Does anybody else want to see Rubio shoot his free throws behind the back?
Butch is sick of the Diet Pepsi ad.
What just happened?
Wes Johnson blocked Tim Duncan. huh.
I picked a good time to turn the game on.
so, maybe this "pek starting" thing isn't a terrible idea...
Remember that time when Wes Johnson blocked a Tim Duncan shot?
LOL, I was about to make the same exact joke. I was just waiting for davidwatts to post again.
I want a dagger, right here!
That's pretty close.
I'm gonna go ahead and count it.
LOOOOOVE!
This just in: Kevin Love has exercised his 4th year player option.
Kevin 'Dagger' Love
why aren't the spurs fouling?
They can't believe they're losing here, because that would be rock bottom.
I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of teams hit rock bottom this year!
Although, in defense of the Mavs broadcast crew, one of them said he feels the Wolves will be much better much sooner than Lob City after the game the other night.
Last year, the Wolves give up 105 points here.
It helps when Rubio and Love is enough to keep the Alpha Dog on the bench near the end of the game.
Yeah, when SnP came with that last year, I had to... LOL.
I love Rubio tossing the ball into the air to end games. It is so dastardly.
Now, that's how you close out a game!
3 Wolves had double-doubles: Rubio (18-10a) Love (18-16r) and Pek! (14-10r)
That is tremendous.
Seriously, I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait for New Guy's reaction to this tomorrow.
I've got another surprise for New Guy tomorrow.
I'm still floating on a Pekovic cloud.
Boys, I have waited a long time to see the Wolves play like this.
It's been about 8 years, by my count.
For some reason, this feels even more fun than those years were.
This is like when they had KG, Gugs, and per crazy Marbury.
Too bad that guy thought he deserved PEK!'s spot on the all time greats list. We could have had a lot of great years with KG in his prime.
Oh man, that would have been awesome. That might even have been able to overcome horribly biased officiating.
No doubt.
It is different. The team is a lot different and I'm at a different place in my life. Plus, there's nothing like a healthy dose of losing to make you appreciate having a team that can play well.
'11-12 Wolves =' 01 Twins?
That sounds about right. Hopefully they can stay competitive for as long as the Twins did.
They could if they played in the East.
MAX REALIGNMENT NOW!!!
they also had plenty of losing before KG came along
It was very, very bad.
Pek! on the postgame
Heh, the sub header on ESPN right now:
If it were up to me, the header would be:
Even without Anthony, Denver is one of the best teams in the league.
It makes me wonder if there's a mandate to promote Anthony as one of the league's figureheads. If sportswriters are watching, they have to see that Carmelo is an extremely flawed player, yes?
There has to be an element of laziness to it. Carmelo leads the Orange to an NCAA title, is a high draft pick, he scores a bunch of points in Denver to mixed/little success, he wants to play in NY to join the Knicks resurgence. SUPERSTAR!!!
I can't believe Pek was available in the WGOM league until 30 seconds ago.
No cheaptoy, I will not trade you Pek for Derek Rose.
Not even if I throw in Deron Williams?
How the hell did you get both Deron Williams and Derek Rose on your team?
Shrewd auto drafting.
Don't do it, Buffalo!
And to think, my team led the lead in block before I picked up Pek.
And now you offered me Pek for Dwight Howard. Well played, buffalo.
This is a keeper league, this is a big win for you.
This is a keeper league?!?
Yeah, don't waste your time, Buffalo, he's holding on to Howard with an iron grip, which is the same thing Howard does with his free throws.
I'll move Howard if I get the right offer- unfortunately, he's most of my blocks and a good chunk of my rebounds right now, so I'm going to be putting up with the bricked FT's for now. Luckily, even if I trade Howard, I still have Blake Griffin missing half his FT's to keep my % nice and low.
Hey, I forgot about that! I haven't checked my team in weeks.
nice stat from AP guy Jonny K (if you arent following him on Twitter, you should!)