The Twins have traded Jaime García to the Yankmes. Is he the best pitcher to ever make just one start for the Twins?
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The Twins have traded Jaime García to the Yankmes. Is he the best pitcher to ever make just one start for the Twins?
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Okay, we've already had one win today...
When I think of one-start wonders, Matt Fox is always the name that comes to mind. I didn't realize until the search just now that this was the only start Matt Fox ever made.
The Twins have gone through so many players that I have forgotten some of them.Jason Wheeler pitched in 2 games and I have no recollection of him.
Lefty Gomez made just one start for the Senators, the last of his career. R.A. Dickey started once, but pitched in 34 other games that season. García is next on the list, in terms of career value.
Kevin Mulvey and Armando Gabino fall a bit short.
When the cat jumped on me around 2am and I saw they had lost, I thought "that could be the breaking point".
Now, I think that they picked up Garcia with the intention of doing exactly what they did all along, but I feel like now, it could be the first of a few. This is not a "playoff" team, and as others have said, it would be foolish to make a push towards getting a second wild card that they're poetically going to fall short of, anyway.
I agree that they are not a "playoff" team. But I also think that this season provides pretty good evidence that they are not far off from being playoff-competitive, with some more pitching help. I don't particularly want them to be "sellers". I'm ok with them being flippers....
Would trading Santana fall into the "selling" or "flipping" category? A rotation of José Berríos & a cast of thousands will be hard to watch for two months, but this might be the best time to extract the excess value out of Santana's contract.
Whatever you want to call it, if the Twins want to sell high, I doubt there's going to be a better time.
Maybe they could trade Santana to the Yanquis for Garcia, prospects and cash.
And then flip Garcia for prospects!
I think I would read it as "selling," since he's in his third season with the Twins.
He's got his highest FIP (4.94) since 2012, thanks to a HR9 above his career average and a K:BB below his career average. $13.5 million seems like a lot, but then, 3+ rWAR pitchers don't grow on trees.
I guess I'd be willing to listen to offers, but would not actively shop him.
That's where I am, too. He's not an "ace", exactly, but he's a competent starting pitcher who's signed through next year. If they can get an adequate return for him, fine. If not, well, I'm happy to have him with the team for another year.
I was wondering what was going on last night when the A's tv guys seemingly joked about the Twins trading Garcia.
Paying $4 million and Ynoa for Recker, Littell and Enns? I don't know enough to have a strong opinion, but I'm guardedly optimistic.
Ynoa is very young (age-19 season) and hasn't shown a ton yet, struggling at Elizabethton this year.
Recker is a 33-year old, no-hit catcher. He's been outrighted off the 40-man, so I don't even see the point. I guess that means we picked up his contract from Atlanta (pro-rated from $800,000).
Littell is much more advanced than Ynoa, at age-21, having pitched well at high-A and AA. I like his 8:2 K:BB ratio so far in his career. Enns is in his age-26 season and has performed well in the minors without advancing to the majors. Tampa only had him at high-A in 2015 before trading him to the Yankees, who stuck him back in the GCL. He then excelled in a half-season of AA in 2016 before being promoted to AAA, where his K-rate dropped sharply (9.5:3.9 at Trenton to 6.9:3.6 at Scranton-Wilkes-Barre). He bounced back up to 8.5:2.3 this season at SCW, which is encouraging, assuming he is healthy and there are no long-term red flags regarding his shoulder (see below).
from Pinstripeprospects:
Here is an optimistic hot take on Littell from a Yanqui blog earlier this summer.
and this review says good-average fastball (low- to mid-90s) with a good curve.
Fangraphs on the trade.
They seem to be pretty high on Ynoa, and only mildly appreciative of Littell and Enns.
except the one they have now is closer to the majors.
That's a pretty big "except." A lot of things can happen in those extra two years.
I think turning Ynoa into Littell and Enns (and Recker, I guess) is a pretty good deal.
If anyone's looking for something to do on the 12 & 13th - USA Club 7s rugby is in Blaine. Two local teams have qualified - Metropolis Men and Minnesota 7s women. Tickets are an imminently reasonable $15/day OR $23 2-day pass.
People come and go so quickly here.
You Melissa is going to be leaving the WGOM? She was only here for the Garcia?
I understand, like, five words of this sentence. All I know is that it has my name in it.
Melissa's Get To Know A Citizen:
We would never trade you for two minor leaguers.
Well....how good are these minor leaguers. Are they legitimate prospects?
Hey, hey - who put you in charge? I think we're wiling to listen to offers
I'm at least worth a couple little leaguers.
R. I. P. Lee May, at age 74.
After playing twenty-one innings yesterday, Chattanooga is headed for extra innings again tonight. Tied 3-3 after nine in Montgomery.