...all yr money
and I'll make origami, honey.
Now that I've listened once or twice through, "Pedestrian at Best" still seems the standout from Courtney Barnett's album.
I was surprised that I had her name spelled right, straight from the start.
Since she's Aussie, I now have three musical reference points for that great* nation.
Ms. Barnett, Midnight Oil, and this guy:
*probably.
Rolling Stones at TCF Stadium Presale.
http://www.axs.com/events/274130/the-rolling-stones-tickets?skin=aeglive&src=AEGTARG_CKROKMSP040915AEG001
Presale starts at 10:00a today (Friday).
Code: Tattoo
Be prepared to spend $$$$ for these tix, nice thing is that TCF has pretty good sightlines, even in upper levels.
Thanks!
01. Evenoire - "The Newborn Spring", Herons
02. Celtic Frost - "Tease Me", Cold Lake
03. Blind Guardian - "The Eldar", Nightfall in Middle Earth
04. Metalium - "The Warrior", As One - Chapter Four
05. Iced Earth - "Coming Curse", Something Wicked This Way Comes
06. Today is the Day - "Animal Mother", Animal Mother
07. Darkest Hour - "Oklahoma", Hidden Hand of a Sadist Nation
08. Tristania - "Cease to Exist", Midwintertears
09. Death - "Empty Words", Symbolic
10. King Diamond - "The Girld in the Bloody Dress", Give Me Your Soul.... Please
1. I'm So Bored with the U.S.A. -- The Clash -- The Clash
2. Soul Food -- Pavement -- Wowee Zowee
3. You In My Prayer -- Boston Spaceships -- Let It Beard
4. Turn It On -- The Flaming Lips -- Transmissions From The Satellite Heart
5. Felicity -- The Wedding Present -- Tommy
6. Who -- Son Volt -- Okemah And The Melody Of Riot
7. This Land Is Your Land -- Woody Guthrie -- The Asch Recordings Vol. 1
8. And Your Bird Can Sing -- The Beatles -- Revolver
9. You Look So Young -- The Jayhawks -- Rainy Day Music
10. Pipeline/Kill Time -- Sonic Youth -- Sister
B1. See No Evil -- Television -- Marquee Moon
B2. Two-Headed Boy -- Neutral Milk Hotel -- In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Notes:
6. This is a great, overlooked Son Volt album
8. On British version of Revolver only, great little known song.
B1. Marquee Moon. Is it Punk? Is it 70s-era guitar rock? Why can't it be both? (Bootsy probably has an opinion on this)
It's one of the greatest albums of all time, but not punk, even though Television was at the forefront of the whole CBGB's movement. (Tom Verlaine built the club's stage, you know.) Blondie, Patti Smith and Talking Heads were all part of that scene, too, but were they really punk? Their attitudes may have been, but the music wasn't. Maybe in the beginning, when Richard Hell and Verlaine first formed the band they were closer to what would become punk. Hell himself said about the band, “We wanted to strip everything down further, away from the showbiz theatricality of the glitter bands, and away from bluesiness and boogie,” he declares. “We wanted to be stark and hard and torn up, the way the world was.”
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY6qIMMWcYE&app=desktop
Very true. There is no doubt a "played at CDBGs in 1976=Punk" classification that lingered for many years but with time all musical genres get defined to a much finer degree. MM is absolutely one great album. If there was any justice in the world, the song Marquee Moon should get as much play on KQ as Cinnamon Girl.
Incidentally Richard Hell would be gone from the band before they released their first album, the seminal Marquee Moon. He'd also go on to write one of the greatest punk singles ever:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP3x-VdOb44
This song is so damn good.
1. Where Do I Hide – Nickelback
2. American Pie – Don McLean
3. Geese In The Flyway – Rogue Vallley
4. Narcolepsy – Third Eye Blind
5. You Make Me Feel So Young – Frank Sinatra
6. I Just Wanna Live - Good Charlotte
7. Out On The Weekend – Neil Young; Stray Gators
8. Maxwell Murder – Rancid
9. Don’t Happen Twice – Kenny Chesney
10. Speak Free – Incubus
B. Never Got Off The Ground - Alison Krauss
Sigh.
You only wish your list was as ...uhh ... eclectic as mine.
I look at CoC's FMD list and I think to myself Where do I Hide? Perhaps Narcolepsy will make me forget. I Just want to live a life where we can all celebrate each other's FMD list. But I know that CoC normally has good lists, my hope is that it Don't Happen Twice.
How did you not use "Speak Free"?
I didn't want to pile on.
Thanks bud.
Also, I'm working through my digital library to clean up all the duplicate songs/albums and mislabeled stuff. Over the course of 3 laptops, 2 external hard drives and 1 desktop, my library is a complete mess. I organize by artist folders, with albums as subfolders. I started with the #'s (311, 2Pac, etc.) and am only through The Byrds. Lots of digital music, limited free time.
I am constantly tweaking mine. It's the only part of my life that I keep obsessively organized. Nothing gets deleted except duplicate songs, everything gets vetted before it gets added (any physical media I purchase goes straight in, of course).
I'm in the process of rating all 15000 songs. I started this process eight years ago. I'm still not even close to finished.
As for the ratings, well, I just want to get the darn thing organized. Once I'm done with that, I'll update my iPod and (the plan is) listen to every song I own, rating as I go. At present, I have 12,526 songs on my 80GB Classic - maybe 400 of them are rated (though if something's worth a 2 or less, I just leave it blank).
Between duplicates (and triplicates...) and whatnot, I'm at more than 17,000 songs in my library. Bought an external hard drive specifically for music (another for pictures) and transferred everything I have to it...after children and pets, that hard drive and the one with pictures would be near the top of the list of things to grab in case of a house fire.
I don't rate much. I use them more to send myself signals from my iPod listening to my iTunes.
5s mean awesome, 4s mean good, 3s mean "attention" (get the album artwork, fix the name, etc.), 2s mean "there's something wrong with the audio", 1s mean "this stinks, remove from iPod if not iTunes.
All 0s mean is none of those things.
That reminds me. I'm overdue for a good backup to my external. I should do that this weekend. Some of the music I've got on that hard drive is from old abandoned sites like garageband and the old MP3.com and are, as such, irreplaceable.
I'm at aboout 8,000 songs. I make it a point to listen to every song once a year and evaluate whether or not I still want it. In fact I just deleted Queen's Bicycle Race today. Pearl Jam's Ten has remained on the cusp of culling for a couple of years now and will go away eventually I am guessing.
My system, with a lot of stuff from before that doesn't fit this method:
Music/Broad Genre/Artist/Year - Album
Music/Broad Genre/Artist/Year - Album/Bonus Tracks
Music/Broad Genre/Artist/Year - OneOffSideProjectArtist - Album
Music/Broad Genre/Artist/Side Project/Year - Album
Music/NoShare/Broad Genre/Artist/Year - Album
Music/NoShare/Unsorted/(free-for-all)
Music/Will Oldham/Releases/Year - Artist - Album
Music/Will Oldham/Performances/Year - Location - Date
I have so much trouble defining genre that most of the time I don't even have that column in iTunes visible.
I have the genre interwoven into more than a couple of autoplaylists, so I try to keep that fairly accurate.
I've only got about 20, and I aggressively edit upon import.
Baseball*
Birds*
Bloodshot (includes anything I was made aware of via a Bloodshot Artist's concert. Oddly, does not include Meat Puppets. Does include Angel Olsen.)
Blues*
Christmas*
Classical*
Country
Dubstep
Electronic (a grab bag, includes Colin Stetson even though that makes no sense)
Hip-Hop
House
Industrial (includes noise, the Knife)
Jazz*
Jungle
Pop (includes R&B)
Reggae and Dub (separate iTunes genres, one folder)
Rock
Techno
Trip-Hop
Will Oldham
*Limited definitions. Anything borderline will not go here. Like Colin Stetson.
Sometimes, I don't know what something is before I listen, so it gets mis-assigned. Mitski is Country.
When I did try to mess with genre, I kept it fairly broad: Classic [Rock], Classical, Hip-Hop, indie? (heh), Country, etc.
Best part about this place, I expect everyone to Speak Freely, even when I know my iPod's got some garbage and I'll get a list like this from time to time. I do take umbrage with the inclusion of Narcolepsy though, I really enjoyed the first couple of TEB albums.
So this list is out of the running for the "rad" title?
01. “About Today” – The National – Cherry Tree
02. “Acetone” – Mudhoney – Piece Of Cake
03. “Used Cars” – Bruce Springsteen – Nebraska
04. “Measuring Cups” – Andrew Bird – The Mysterious Production Of Eggs
05. “Rip This Joint” – Rolling Stones – Exile On Main St
06. “Motion Pictures” – Neil Young – On The Beach
07. “Room 13” – Dirty Projectors – Rise Above
08. “How Loud Your Love Gets” – Lucius – Wildewoman
09. “Let Him Roll” – Guy Clark – Old No. 1
10. “Stevie Nix” – The Hold Steady – Separation Sunday
The new Sufjan Stevens is really, really good, you guys.
Bought Carrie and Lowell earlier this week but have only spun it once. An Elliott Smith-like sadness seems to sweep through the proceedings, not a bad thing, mind you.
Yes. Yes it is.
I was sort of underwhelmed by "No Shade in the Shadow of the Cross" as a standalone track, but that's not really how you're supposed to listen to Sufjan, anyway. As part of the full album, it's a devastating, great song - just like everything else on that album.
Some say it's his best, and though I'm not sure I'd go that far yet, I can see the argument. On the surface, yeah, it's kind of Elliott Smith-y (and no, I also don't mean that as a slight). After getting more familiar with it, it's just so well crafted, honed, and precise. And yes, devastating. So, so good.
My last obsessive album was Hospice. I think I need something lighter for summer...
hj, how quickly do you take in new albums? (Actually, I'd be curious to hear from anyone on this question.) I picked up three new albums last week, but I feel like it's going to take me weeks to fully integrate them. Right now I'm just at that awkward getting-to-know you stage with them. That said, I suspect I'm on the slow side when it comes to taking in new stuff.
I'd say anywhere from 6-10 albums per month on average, but all to varying degrees of listening. I usually try to give something at least 3-4 listens before I form an opinion. Sometimes that's all an album will get before I move on, though I do try to go back and re-visit things that I feel may not have gotten a fair shake. Some things get obsessively played. Regarding my library, there's only a few things I focus on:
Correct artist name/album/artwork/etc. - Once that's set, iTunes will take care of the rest as far as organizing.
Genre - This only to a verrrrry limited degree, and more only in a few cases, like Jazz, Classical, and Comedy. I pretty much listen to music by album (and occasionally on a full library shuffle), so I know exactly what I'm going to listen to in that case (I tried to reorganize all my genres, but I think I petered out somewhere in the Cs).
Play Counts - For some reason, I really like having this data. As mentioned, some albums only get 3-4 listens, but, for example, in a week, I think I'm over 20 times through Carrie & Lowell.
I don't think I'll ever bother with ratings, as they're pretty subjective and would change over time. I could just go by play counts to see what I like best. If anything, I might adopt it as a utility, like AMR.
I reset my play counts every year, because I'm absurdly interested in what I listen to most in a given year (I use last.fm for broader listening data).
I also developed a formula for averaging out an album that weighs 4, 4.5, and 5 star songs far more heavily than 3 star songs and whatnot, but that's just because I like having a bunch of weird numbers that don't mean anything to anybody but me.
As interested as I am in play counts, I totally get this. I wish there was someway you could break out the data.
You didn't ask me, but I'll share my thoughts on this, anyway, because why not?
I think it varies from album to album. Some albums feel like favorites from the second you listen to them (I'm thinking Japandroids last one, Sleigh Bells, debut, etc). This doesn't happen too often for me anymore. Most of the time, I have to sit with an album and allow it to become familiar sounding. If I'm listening to it fairly consistently (like I did earlier this year with Sleater-Kinney), it'll usually take about two or three weeks. But really, that ends up being sort of "artificially" familiar. Really, I don't become too comfortable with most albums for a few months.
As far as actually getting into albums, yeah, I'd say this is pretty much how I operate too (this month's crop included Celebration Rock, and yeah, two thumbs up upon delivery).
Glad to hear your thoughts along with hj's--and Zack's too! I'm not sure I have anything to add, but I'm finding the responses all really interesting. (Also, I have not so much as dabbled in genre assignments, ratings, and the like. My default is to view my music "by artist" and then find the album I want. I strongly suspect the artists with names at the beginning of the alphabet have garnered a bunch of extra listens as a result.)
Regarding top-heavy listening, I'll just scroll to 'k' or 'm' occasionally, just to avoid that very phenomenon.
I used to listen to five or six new albums a week, but now it's a lot less than that. I basically add anything that came out that interests me to a playlist in Spotify, and then kinda pick and choose things to listen to throughout the year. It can take me a long time to get into things, or I completely fall for them and they take over my whole life (for example Bury Me at Makeout Creek).
I wish I listened to as much new stuff as I used to, but at least in my current job I get a chance to listen to music at work. Wasn't the case in previous positions.
I only get one or two a year that really "take me over", and a lot of times, they don't even end up being my favorite albums of the year.
I would say I'm at about a 4 or 5 album a month pace. Every year, that number decreases, but that's partially because I'm trying harder to give albums a chance (and giving them a chance in a variety of settings, as opposed to just saying "Phosphorescent doesn't make good snowboarding music!") , rather than kicking them to the curb after one less-than-impressive listen.
Free, do you have any live Television? If you don't, I suggest you rectify that situation. That's where they really shone brightest, especially on versions of "Little Johnny Jewel".
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVsZc3609Cc
The guitar interplay starting at around the 5:46 mark is glorious.
Thanks for the tip! I've heard some live stuff but none that I own.
The first I owned was The Blow Up, which is culled from several dates. So very, very awesome. Live at The Old Waldorf is readily available and well worth owning. The July 2nd 1978 Portland Oregon Earth Tavern bootleg is a little harder to come by, but equally awesome. They also never played a song the same way twice, if these documents are any indication.
a. Eurasian Collared-Dove “Coo Calls” (Cornell Master Set)
b. Buff-collared Nightjar “Song” (Stokes Guide, Western)
c. Mozambique Nightjar “Song” (Sound Guide to Nightjars)
d. Tree Swallow “Attack Growl Calls” (Cornell Master Set)
1. Autechre “Foil” Amber
2. Merle Haggard & The Strangers “Long Black Limousine” Branded Man
3. Eric Copeland* “RGAG 3” RGAR
4. Daniel Romano “Strange Birds”* While No One Was Looking: Toasting 20 Years of Bloodshot Records
e. American Robin “Soft Song with Many Whisper Elements” (Cornell Master Set)
5. Massive Attack “Better Things” Protection
6. Jim Fassett “Explanatory Comments” Symphony of the Birds
7. Evan Thomas Weiss and Into It. Over It. “Deep Red Bells”* While No One Was Looking: Toasting 20 Years of Bloodshot Records
f. Black-capped Chickadee “Atypical Song” (Cornell Master Set)
8. Roy Orbison “Mean Woman Blues” The All-Time Greatest Hits of
g. Common Grackle “Cha-a-a Scolding Calls” (Cornell Master Set)
h. Tree Swallow “Flight Song” (Cornell Master Set)
i. Trumpeter Swan and Chimney Swift “Calls” (Who Cooks for Poor Sam Peabody?)
j. Killdeer “Killdeer Calls in Flight” (Cornell Master Set)
9. Bob Marley & The Wailers “Keep on Moving (12" Mix)” At Tuff Gong and More: Original Vinyl Tracks
k. Northern Cardinal “Song” (Cornell Master Set)
A. Andy Stott “Hatch the Plan” Luxury Problems
B. Merle Haggard & The Strangers “I'll Always Know”* Mama Tried
C.* Courtney Barnett “Nobody Really Cares if You Don't Go to the Party”* Sometimes I Sit And Think, And Sometimes I Just Sit.
*Notes:
3. Of Black Dice.
4. Jon Langford & the Sadies cover.
7. Neko Case cover.
A. "...when you've been cheatin'." The song version of Trollope's He Knew He Was Right? I've suspected this is one of the reasons he's found in prison or on death row for other songs on the album.
C. Twelfth song requires switching to hexadecimal.
C. Lydia Loveless's "More Like Them" sympathizes with this song.
* DNA - The Kills - Blood Pressures
* LAZAR - The Dead Pirates - Malevolent Melody
* The Lost Souls - AFI - The Art of Drowning
* Kabuki Girl - Descendents - Milo Goes to College
* Drum & Guitar - Giant Sand - Long Stem Rant
* Hell - Foo Fighters - In Your Honor
* Good Morning Beautiful - Deftones - (self-titled)
* On and On and On - Jack White - Blunderbuss
* Came Back Haunted - Nine Inch Nails - Hesitation Marks
* Four Player Piano Studies: Study 11 - Bang On a Can All-Stars - Big, Beautiful, Dark, and Scary (C. Nancarrow)
Aussies?
The Drones and Silverchair are the only ones that really come to mind.
Aussies in my iTunes: AC/DC, The Saints, Radio Birdman, The Church, The Hoodoo Gurus, Nick Cave, The Dirty Three and the aforementioned Drones.
Quick check - Australians in my iTunes (mixture of songs & albums): Natalie Imbruglia*, Gotye**, Boy & Bear, Rick Springfield, Angus & Julia Stone, INXS, Little River Band, Men At Work*, Jet, Tame Impala and the aforementioned Silverchair* & AC/DC*.
*Only ones that came to mind at first.
**He was born in Belgium but raised in Australia.
I didn't know Jet was from Australia. They're somewhere in my library as well.
I had forgotten, but yeah they are.
Wolf Mother, IIRC
I don't have time for a random 10 this week but I just wanted to say the new Waxahatchee album Ivy Tripp is soooooooo good, you guys. That's basically all I've been spinning this week.
I'm looking forward to checking that one out . . . just gotta let my current new albums sink in a little more first.
This is the "staying after school for Friday afternoon detention duty" list:
1. Franz Ferdinand - "Take Me Out" - Franz Ferdinand
2. Husker Du - "What's Going On" - Zen Arcade
3. Aranda - "Do You Feel" - Aranda
4. Pixies - "Bone Machine" - Surfer Rosa
5. Los Campesinos! - "By Your Hand" - Hello Sadness
6. The Jayhawks - "Miss Williams' Guitar" - Tomorrow The Green Grass
7. Blitzen Trapper - "Valley Of Death" - VII
8. The Velvet Underground - "All Tomorrow's Parties" - The Velvet Underground & Nico
9. The Avett Brothers - "Smoke In Our Lights" - A Carolina Jubilee
10. Drive By Truckers - "A World Of Hurt" - A Blessing And A Curse
Wait ... they still give detention?
You just bought yourself another Saturday.
Corn's had a rough day.