35 thoughts on “August 11, 2016: Fringe”

1. Minor Details will be taking a few days off. No emergency, I just will be out of town and mostly away from the internet for a few days. If all goes as expected, Minor Details will return Monday morning. I probably won't make up the days I miss, so if anyone else wants to cover them, go for it.

2. Yesterday Rhu_Ru asked if we could name all ten players who have played for the Twins and slugged 300 or more homers in their career. I'll go the gopheritis route today:

   Who are the nine pitchers who have played for the Twins and surrendered 300 or more home runs over their careers?

   1. How about...

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      Kaat, Perry, Blyleven, Carlton, Radke, Morris, Livan, Milton, Viola?

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         I couldn't name that many. Definitely Bert. Mulholland?

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            Mulholland had 293.

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               Olé!

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         Yesx7, No to last two. Viola is sooo close at 294. Milton simply didn't have enough innings to make it to 300.

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            Seeing the last two, I should have gotten Tiant (I was just reading about his stay with the Twins a month or two ago), but I never would've gotten Lohse.

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               That makes 10 pitchers. Pedro Ramos gave up 316 home runs. He played the debut season of the Twins and the previous six with the Senators.

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                  There are 11. Stats are as a Twin/Senator so only one lucky player tops 300 here. Rk Player HR From To G 1 Brad Radke 326 1995 2006 378 2 Jim Kaat 279 1959 1973 484 3 Bert Blyleven 243 1970 1988 348 4 Pedro Ramos 210 1955 1961 290 5 Jim Perry 166 1963 1972 376 6 Kyle Lohse 128 2001 2006 172 7 Kenny Rogers 22 2003 2003 33 8 Livan Hernandez 18 2008 2008 23 9 Jack Morris 18 1991 1991 35 10 Steve Carlton 12 1987 1988 13 11 Luis Tiant 12 1970 1970 18 The link includes Early Wynn but he did not play for the Twins.

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                  11! Kenny Rogers pitched a season for the Twins, as well.

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                  Ramos didn't show up on the Play Index search I ran. I limited it to the Expansion Era to keep the list manageable – I wonder if that eliminated all his pre-1961 stats? The PI tool can be really opaque sometimes.

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                     Still should have been able to find Rogers though. PI was completely busted yesterday so maybe that affected your search too.

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                        So, apparently Perry was eliminated because 45 of his 308 HR allowed were surrendered in the 1959 & 1960 seasons. That and Ramos explains the difference in our lists (and sheds light on how the era filters in PI work - or don't). I took them to include any Expansion era player's career totals. Apparently it actually limits career totals to only stats accumulated during the Expansion era, even if the career extended beyond it.

   2. Ooooh, good one! Wild guesses:

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      Bert, Pedro Ramos, Bradke, Joe Niekro, Jack Morris, Livan Hernandez, Sidney Ponson, and He Who Shall Not Be Named

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         I was going to name Perry and Kaat, and forgot

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      Blyleven, Radke, Joe Niekro, Steve Carlton, ...

      and, without a doubt,

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      Ron Davis

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      Koosman, Goltz, Kaat, Morris, Pascual,

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      Radke (with about 75% in the first inning), Kaat, Bert, Mulholland, Lohse, Perry, and Viola

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         Mulholland is oh-so-close, one behind Sweet Music with 293.

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         By Inning: 1: 76 (23.3% of HRs in 15.4% of career IP) 2: 49 3: 35 4: 45 5: 36 6: 49 7: 19 8+: 13 Interestingly consistent split: HRs by month Mar/Apr: 53 May: 54 June: 54 July: 55 August: 53 Sept/Oct: 57

   5. Huh, I would have also guessed Rick Reed. I swear there was a game I went to where he made it almost halfway there...

3. Anyone else planning to be at today's game? Fingers crossed the rain holds off until later in the day.

4. New Lydia Loveless album has dropped on NPR Music First Listen. That's my lunch date.

5. The 844 returned to the tracks last month.

   1. I was expecting Jesse Crain.

6. Apparently were home owners(!). Everything is in and we close on Monday.

   1. Congrats. When does hurricane season start?

      1. June 1st. Thanks for asking, Doc.

   2. Nice. Congrats, meat.

   3. Congrats man! Best of luck on Monday, and I hope you love it.

      1. As in, I hope you love home ownership itself, not, like, "it's yours now so you'd better love it or else."

   4. Congrats, meat!

      Is there room for a smoker? A hungry Citizenry turns its eyes to you.

      1. so much this.

   5. Congrats meat! Owning a home has done wonders for my todo list!

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