I cared. I forgot to watch the first four games of the series, though. Watching Fowles dominate the boards was a lot of fun.
I looked...at my Yahoo app. I guess I could have gotten both the wildcard game and this one in before cancelling Playstation Vue...if I had signed up...
I watched the Lynx last night. Great game. Almost blew it with sloppy passing but they cleaned up in the paint.
I watched a chunk of Game 3. Lots of sloppy basketball on both sides, counterbalancing some exciting action. Missed last night's game Because Work (and Because Forgot).
I didn't forget, but was at work until it had been over for half an hour. I did watch Maya's drive at the end about thirty times.
Very nice drive through PA Amish country this morning. Also road construction, which appears to be an ongoing theme here :/
Sure, but his case at catcher isn't improving. He's going to be a 1B/C soon instead of C/1B. And his 1B case is lacking a bit. I guess if he reverses time and puts up a few six win seasons that would change things but I see him falling short because of that.
Ernie Banks was also unimpressive at first but got in based on his SS career (plus HR padding)
I love the Ernie Banks comp. I was reading something recently (did someone here share it?) that went through that one and one other, and I thought the Banks comparison just seemed so apt.
A GG or few would look good on the bling side of it, too.
Yes, but would any voter over 60 even think of him as a 1b instead of as a C when the time comes?
Trying to find some comps in the HOF. Buck Ewing went in as a catcher, and played a plurality of games at that position, but a majority of games at other positions (1b, OF, 3b, 2b, SS).
Buster Posey has played just short of 800 career games at C, but just finished his age-30 season. I would not be shocked to see him transition to 1b over the next three years (he's played 212 games there so far). He could easily end up as a 1b/C by games played.
Glad to hear it. It seems like a move that will build trust with the players too, which seems relevant for attracting talent?
I doubt it will help for attracting talent, definitely much less than massive stacks of cash. I wonder how long the deal will be. My guess is two years. Also up for a possible extension is Mauer.
Admittedly, cash will have the larger pull. I guess I was thinking more in the "we're serious about winning" category though. Kind of like it's helping offset the seller mentality of the trade deadline.
How do the Twins extend Joe's contract? Aren't there rules in place that prevent the contract amount from dropping by some given amount from the previous salary? He certainly won't be earning $23M anymore.
I don't recall any rules for MLB about that. It might be a rule in arbitration that the salary can't drop more than some percentage.
Well, I'd love to see him extended, although haters still gonna hate regardless of the salary
also, why would either party pursue an extension at this point?
By fangraphs reckoning, he has been worth $1.2 million, $7.6 million and $18.1 million each of the last three years, based on performance. Probably considerably more, based on his brandname value to the franchise, particularly with his resurgence the last two seasons.
If (IF!) he can repeat this year in 2018, I'd have to imagine that he would command pretty close to $23 million per for another 2-3 year contract somewhere.
Looking for counting stat milestones:
Hits: he's 1,014 away from 3,000. At ~150-160 hits per year, he needs another seven seasons to make 3,000.
Pussy singles: he's 581 short of 2,000. At 90-120 per year, he needs 6-7.
Doubles: he's 99 away from 500. At ~25-30 per year, he needs another 4 seasons. He's 4th in franchise history and should pass Kirby (414) and Joe Judge (421) next season. Sam Rice leads at 479, so that is within reach in 2-3 seasons.
TB: he's 144 short of 3,000. At 190-225 per year, he gets there next season. 8th in franchise history. Tony O is 5th at 3,002. Kirby is 3rd (3,453).
Runs: he's 56 short of 1,000. Should happen next season. Kirby is 4th in franchise history at 1,071. He should get there in 2 seasons.
RBI: he's 125 short of 1,000. At ~50-70 per year, he needs 2-3. He's 9th in franchise history. Hrbek is second at 1,086, reachable in 4.
BB: he's 112 short of 1,000. At ~60-80 per year, he needs 2. 4th in franchise history. Joe Judge (943) is 3rd. Eddie Yost (1,274) is second (6-7 seasons).
IBB: he's at 140, which is about 1.5 Big Headed Bonds seasons. Only three this year, after two years of low double digits. Call it 6-8 years to get to 200, but nobody cares.
GIDP: he's one short of 200. He gets there opening day. /stribber He's second in franchise history behind Harmon at 238.
G: he's 269 short of 2,000. Joe Judge is 3rd in franchise history at 2,084. I don't see him catching Killebrew (2,329) for the franchise record.
Offensive WAR: he's 4th on the franchise list at 51.8. Next up is Kirby at 52.4, then Sir Rodney at 63.4. I don't see him catching Killebrew (71.2).
rWAR: he's 3rd on the franchise list at 53.4. Second is Killebrew (60.5) and first is Carew at 63.7. He could catch Killebrew with 3 more seasons, Carew in 4-5.
AB: 7th on the franchise list at 6,444. Next up is Mickey Vernon at 6,930, then Kirby at 7,244.
PA: 9th at 7,417. Kirby (5th at 7,831) is in reach next year. Harmon is second at 9,464. At 575-650 per season, that's 3-4 years.
XBH: 8th at 567. Next up is Tony O at 597. He gets there next year. Kirby is 3rd at 678, which is reachable in 3-4.
Because he's going into his final season. If an extension doesn't happen during the season, something the new FO may be more amenable too than the last one, then he becomes a free agent. Easy to get the extension done in the offseason before rumors start. He does have a no-trade clause but that's easily rescinded. Not saying it has to happen now, but the offseason seems like a good time to at least broach the subject.
and another season tells the FO a lot more about where he is on the age-decline curve. Is this year a fluke, or a sign that he's back? I don't see a whole lot of propaganda value for extending him now. He can't negotiate with other clubs, so they are all in wait-and-see mode anyway.
If Joe is eager to sign a deal that keeps him in Minnesota for the rest of his career, then he might broach the topic and offer a hometown discount to git-r-dun. But I still don't see what the franchise gets from extending him now.
See, you're talking discounts. The players' union frowns very heavily on discounts, and I'm pretty sure the FO is limited on how much less than the current salary that they can offer him, so I don't see that as happening. To remain with the Twins at a substantially lower salary, he'd have to go FA and refuse other teams' offers (a la Kendrys Morales) and the Twins would have to wait until May-ish to resign him back, I think. I hope I'm wrong, but the majority of stribbers are going to split a gut if he sticks around longer at $23M
They'd only have to wait until May if they offer Mauer arbitration and he declines. Of course, the amount he would be paid is less than his current salary, but not a lot. I think it'd be in the $19 million area. I'm still quite sure the FO can offer him whatever salary they want in an extension and aren't limited in any way. I can't find anything about that once a player becomes a free agent and I only remember the decrease limiter applying to arb players.
First, I think the discount is 100% of the reason to get it done now.
Second, I think the market for Mauer is exceedingly thin. Who needs an obp high, power low AL-only player? Went through this the other day and the only team besides MN that made real sense was Tampa Bay. So for Mauer, certainty and a thin market make it appealing too.
I think it will certainly keep the players happy, Dozier was pretty outspoken about them all wanting him back. Falvey and Levine seem smart enough to know you don't fix what ain't broken.
Heh, that sounds a lot like the previous regime's philosophy, too. Of course, their problem was they couldn't tell when it was actually broken.
Apparently, not even the Basement cares to look?
I was tracking all uring th gam last night.
Also, my kyboar has gottn wors.
I cared. I forgot to watch the first four games of the series, though. Watching Fowles dominate the boards was a lot of fun.
I looked...at my Yahoo app. I guess I could have gotten both the wildcard game and this one in before cancelling Playstation Vue...if I had signed up...
I watched the Lynx last night. Great game. Almost blew it with sloppy passing but they cleaned up in the paint.
Nice "dynasty" article by Reusse.
I watched a chunk of Game 3. Lots of sloppy basketball on both sides, counterbalancing some exciting action. Missed last night's game Because Work (and Because Forgot).
I didn't forget, but was at work until it had been over for half an hour. I did watch Maya's drive at the end about thirty times.
Very nice drive through PA Amish country this morning. Also road construction, which appears to be an ongoing theme here :/
Sure, but his case at catcher isn't improving. He's going to be a 1B/C soon instead of C/1B. And his 1B case is lacking a bit. I guess if he reverses time and puts up a few six win seasons that would change things but I see him falling short because of that.
Ernie Banks was also unimpressive at first but got in based on his SS career (plus HR padding)
I love the Ernie Banks comp. I was reading something recently (did someone here share it?) that went through that one and one other, and I thought the Banks comparison just seemed so apt.
A GG or few would look good on the bling side of it, too.
Yes, but would any voter over 60 even think of him as a 1b instead of as a C when the time comes?
Trying to find some comps in the HOF. Buck Ewing went in as a catcher, and played a plurality of games at that position, but a majority of games at other positions (1b, OF, 3b, 2b, SS).
Buster Posey has played just short of 800 career games at C, but just finished his age-30 season. I would not be shocked to see him transition to 1b over the next three years (he's played 212 games there so far). He could easily end up as a 1b/C by games played.
Strib is reporting Twins are extending Molitor.
Glad to hear it. It seems like a move that will build trust with the players too, which seems relevant for attracting talent?
I doubt it will help for attracting talent, definitely much less than massive stacks of cash. I wonder how long the deal will be. My guess is two years. Also up for a possible extension is Mauer.
Admittedly, cash will have the larger pull. I guess I was thinking more in the "we're serious about winning" category though. Kind of like it's helping offset the seller mentality of the trade deadline.
How do the Twins extend Joe's contract? Aren't there rules in place that prevent the contract amount from dropping by some given amount from the previous salary? He certainly won't be earning $23M anymore.
I don't recall any rules for MLB about that. It might be a rule in arbitration that the salary can't drop more than some percentage.
Well, I'd love to see him extended, although haters still gonna hate regardless of the salary
also, why would either party pursue an extension at this point?
By fangraphs reckoning, he has been worth $1.2 million, $7.6 million and $18.1 million each of the last three years, based on performance. Probably considerably more, based on his brandname value to the franchise, particularly with his resurgence the last two seasons.
If (IF!) he can repeat this year in 2018, I'd have to imagine that he would command pretty close to $23 million per for another 2-3 year contract somewhere.
Looking for counting stat milestones:
Hits: he's 1,014 away from 3,000. At ~150-160 hits per year, he needs another seven seasons to make 3,000.
Pussy singles: he's 581 short of 2,000. At 90-120 per year, he needs 6-7.
Doubles: he's 99 away from 500. At ~25-30 per year, he needs another 4 seasons. He's 4th in franchise history and should pass Kirby (414) and Joe Judge (421) next season. Sam Rice leads at 479, so that is within reach in 2-3 seasons.
TB: he's 144 short of 3,000. At 190-225 per year, he gets there next season. 8th in franchise history. Tony O is 5th at 3,002. Kirby is 3rd (3,453).
Runs: he's 56 short of 1,000. Should happen next season. Kirby is 4th in franchise history at 1,071. He should get there in 2 seasons.
RBI: he's 125 short of 1,000. At ~50-70 per year, he needs 2-3. He's 9th in franchise history. Hrbek is second at 1,086, reachable in 4.
BB: he's 112 short of 1,000. At ~60-80 per year, he needs 2. 4th in franchise history. Joe Judge (943) is 3rd. Eddie Yost (1,274) is second (6-7 seasons).
IBB: he's at 140, which is about 1.5 Big Headed Bonds seasons. Only three this year, after two years of low double digits. Call it 6-8 years to get to 200, but nobody cares.
GIDP: he's one short of 200. He gets there opening day. /stribber He's second in franchise history behind Harmon at 238.
G: he's 269 short of 2,000. Joe Judge is 3rd in franchise history at 2,084. I don't see him catching Killebrew (2,329) for the franchise record.
Offensive WAR: he's 4th on the franchise list at 51.8. Next up is Kirby at 52.4, then Sir Rodney at 63.4. I don't see him catching Killebrew (71.2).
rWAR: he's 3rd on the franchise list at 53.4. Second is Killebrew (60.5) and first is Carew at 63.7. He could catch Killebrew with 3 more seasons, Carew in 4-5.
AB: 7th on the franchise list at 6,444. Next up is Mickey Vernon at 6,930, then Kirby at 7,244.
PA: 9th at 7,417. Kirby (5th at 7,831) is in reach next year. Harmon is second at 9,464. At 575-650 per season, that's 3-4 years.
XBH: 8th at 567. Next up is Tony O at 597. He gets there next year. Kirby is 3rd at 678, which is reachable in 3-4.
Because he's going into his final season. If an extension doesn't happen during the season, something the new FO may be more amenable too than the last one, then he becomes a free agent. Easy to get the extension done in the offseason before rumors start. He does have a no-trade clause but that's easily rescinded. Not saying it has to happen now, but the offseason seems like a good time to at least broach the subject.
and another season tells the FO a lot more about where he is on the age-decline curve. Is this year a fluke, or a sign that he's back? I don't see a whole lot of propaganda value for extending him now. He can't negotiate with other clubs, so they are all in wait-and-see mode anyway.
If Joe is eager to sign a deal that keeps him in Minnesota for the rest of his career, then he might broach the topic and offer a hometown discount to git-r-dun. But I still don't see what the franchise gets from extending him now.
See, you're talking discounts. The players' union frowns very heavily on discounts, and I'm pretty sure the FO is limited on how much less than the current salary that they can offer him, so I don't see that as happening. To remain with the Twins at a substantially lower salary, he'd have to go FA and refuse other teams' offers (a la Kendrys Morales) and the Twins would have to wait until May-ish to resign him back, I think. I hope I'm wrong, but the majority of stribbers are going to split a gut if he sticks around longer at $23M
They'd only have to wait until May if they offer Mauer arbitration and he declines. Of course, the amount he would be paid is less than his current salary, but not a lot. I think it'd be in the $19 million area. I'm still quite sure the FO can offer him whatever salary they want in an extension and aren't limited in any way. I can't find anything about that once a player becomes a free agent and I only remember the decrease limiter applying to arb players.
First, I think the discount is 100% of the reason to get it done now.
Second, I think the market for Mauer is exceedingly thin. Who needs an obp high, power low AL-only player? Went through this the other day and the only team besides MN that made real sense was Tampa Bay. So for Mauer, certainty and a thin market make it appealing too.
I think it will certainly keep the players happy, Dozier was pretty outspoken about them all wanting him back. Falvey and Levine seem smart enough to know you don't fix what ain't broken.
Heh, that sounds a lot like the previous regime's philosophy, too. Of course, their problem was they couldn't tell when it was actually broken.