142 thoughts on “October 4, 2013: Social”

  1. Chad Curtis is going to prison for a long time for molesting other people's daughters. You may want to avoid this quote by him below if you don't want your heart filled with tar this morning.

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      1. That might be the most perfect, prescient LTE in the history of this site. I can't fathom any better response to that quote.

      1. I just read that in Minnesota clergy are not mandated reporters when they hear things in confession. Is this true? And if so, what the fuck is wrong with government? I can't imagine one good argument that could convince me that a priest should not report a confession of rape while a vulnerable client fired me yesterday, her most ardent supporter, because I reported her PCA for stealing a pain pill.

        1. The legal basis for this privilege comes from the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, which provides for the freedom of religion.

            1. I'm not sure if this is the right forum for discussing this, but tying a distinctly religious ceremony to legal proceedings seems like a really bad idea. Arguably, if this wasn't protected by the 1st amendment, it could be used as a run around of the 5th amendment. "You don't want to incriminate yourself? Well, if you want to confess and receive absolution for your sins, you must waive that right."

              Now, the role of the priest in giving a penance to address the wrongs may be interesting to discuss.

              1. I"m not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone here, but I sense this discussion falls outside the WGOM boundaries.

                1. Whether or not to shield rapists is forbidden zone? Guess I'll stick to baseball and video games

                  1. I believe if you review my comment you'll see that I was just giving my opinion that I sensed this was treading on FZ territory. It was a suggestion and I don't think it deserved your response.

                    And since the topic is apparently so non-controversial, here are my two cents:

                    I find rape horrific. I do not find confessor-priest confidentiality horrific. I'm not Catholic, and frankly I don't know that I can really claim to be Lutheran any more, but I'm not about to step in and tell Catholics that their priests are legally obligated to report confessed crimes to the police.

                2. It's a fine line, to be sure, but I tend to disagree on this particular instance.

                  The FZ is in place (in my mind) to keep this place safe from political discussion, which often overwhelms and ends up tainting other discussion. It's worth being aware of, but the FZ itself shouldn't dissuade us from talking about some of the more difficult stuff, so long as we can do it in a way that isn't diminishing any of our citizens.

                  1. well said, nibs.

                    Rule number one should always be that this is a friendly, inclusive, fun place to have adult conversations. When it doubt, spoiler. When in real doubt, probably best to take it off line.

                    I say this as a serial transgressor. I never take offense at those who point the stick at me to say I've crossed into the FZ. There are enough other places on the Series of Tubes in which to engage in butt-hurting exchanges (or, more usually, serial monologues).

                    That's not to say that we should totally avoid adult conversations about FZ-borderland issues here, just that we should all be high self-monitors and gracious bar-mates.

                    1. I apologize for coming off non-inclusive. I said what I said because I thought I was preaching to a choir. Like if I came here and shouted that murder should be illegal or Mauer was a good catcher.

                      If I felt it was FZ I wouldn't have said anything, spoiler or otherwise.

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                    3. I think it's an interesting conversation either way, and since law is discussed here with a pretty high frequency, I took it more in a "law" aspect, rather than a "religion" aspect.

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                      also, I agree again with nibs. There are interesting legal questions here too.

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        2. I would compare it to the privilege given to lawyers and spouses.
          I am not a lawyer, but this is how it's grouped in my mind.

          1. Actually, there's a huge distinction between thsoe two privileges (lawyers and spouses). A lawyer cannot disclose without a waiver of the privilege by the client; a spouse may disclose whatever (s)he wants, but is protected from being compelled to disclose.

            1. OK, like that.
              I meant in willingness to allow the state to impel breech of confidence.

              Lawyers clearly have responsibilities above what a spouse does.
              And while a confessor has a moral obligation to keep silent (to be weighed, certainly, in extreme cases), I don't believe there is a legal obligation. Yo no soy abogado. Soy capitán soy capitán.

      1. As we all know, the Cincy market is much less forgiving than a small town like Minneapolis.

    1. every time I see Fernando Rodney pitch I expect to see him give up a 12-run home run.

      that made me chuckle and nod.

  2. The Capitol chase story just keeps getting sadder. Hard to over-criticize the officers involved for firing their weapons, but you just wish they could have found another way....

    1. Hard to over-criticize the officers involved for firing their weapons, but you just wish they could have found another way...

      Amen.

      1. Yeah, ideally the tires get shot out, they realize she's mentally ill, and she gets help. But unless something more damning comes to light, I won't be harsh either. For all they knew she had bombs.

          1. Without trying to cross too far into the FZ...

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                  1. Reports out today indicate mental illness was a contributing factor. The woman's mother specifically noted post-partum depression, and what could be some recent paranoid delusions.

  3. I know movie day is quite a ways away, so I don't want to discuss it too much, but Gravity is excellent and you should go to it ASAP.

    1. The only interesting angle I see here is that the media has vilified A-Rod to such a degree that he really has nothing to lose. Frankly, I have a hard time seeing how MLB got to 211 games. Had they even stuck with 100 games, the second-time violation, it might have been somewhat hard to defend but at least they could point to something pre-established. Making up an A-Rod specific penalty smells like something personal.

    2. I've read quite a few complaints (I'm working on two different Rule 12 motions to dismiss right now!), but I've never seen a header as fantastic as "The Disastrous Tenure of Commissioner Selig"

      Also, they somehow botched McGwire's homerun total in ¶ 21.

      1. wattsy, I feel you, but we are talking about the guy who announced that he was opting out of his contract during the last game of the World Series. We'll be lucky if he doesn't have papers served on Bud Selig during the trophy award ceremony this year. Come to think of it, that would be one of the awesomest things of all time.

  4. So, there's this storm brewing off the coast. While it's more bark than bite, my museum has gone full tilt boogie in preparedness. My boss, and his boss, have that thousand yard stare thing going on this morning. I'm going home to stock up on miller highlife and pork to smoke. /lez le bon temps roule

    1. There's a storm of a different kind not that far from me. Blizzard or winter storm warning for most of western South Dakota. Only a winter storm watch here. It's chilly and windy, and we've had some rain, but not cold enough to snow yet.

        1. Was watching the local newscast last night and they had a story on how the wet/late spring affected crops - specifically corn. The farmer and U of MN extension agent they interviewed said a lot of the corn had mostly caught up, despite the dry summer. Farmer went on to say that he'd been farming long enough to remember the Halloween blizzard and was therefore in overdrive to get the fields harvested/corn dried as soon as possible.

            1. Risk and cost management are a big part of farming. Drying corn costs a lot of money so you want nature to do as much of it as possible, but if you wait too long you risk losing a big part of your crop. I don't envy farmers some the existential decisions they have to make.

            1. I remember that one. For some reason we decided it would still be a good idea to go trick er treating.

              1. My sister went out that year and she made an absolute killing. It was a great idea, provided one's costume allowed for a heavy coat and winter boots.

                  1. I had just turned 14.
                    I can't remember what my original plan was, but I ditched it and took a pair of my mom's pantyhose, stretched it over my face, had a pillowcase for candy and a 3-D-Cell chromey flashlight. +Parka and snow boots. I was a robber.
                    Lots and lots of candy.

            2. Ch - I got the impression that that's the one the farmer was referring to. Started our trick-or-treating in regular costume get-up and swung back by the house for snow suits and Sorels.
              Looking around, I found this. I wonder how much difference having Black Jack around for the '92 season would have made. He led the league in wins with Toronto but posted a 101 ERA+ and WHIP of 1.255 in 240.2 innings. Could he have helped make up the 6 games they finished behind the A's?

              1. What was his records against the A's? From what I remember, they were neck and neck until August when the Twins crapped the bed in a series against them and then lost several right after that.

                1. He was 1-1 with a no decision in 3 starts against them. Gave up 8 runs on 22 hits in those starts, pitching a total of 19.2 innings.

                2. I was backpacking at Philmont Boy Scout Ranch that August.
                  USA Todays on the drive out had them one or two back.
                  First newspaper on the drive home (10 days later?) and the race was over.

              2. Unlikely. If he replaced Pat Mahomes, Willie Banks, Mike Trombley, and David West (they combined for 35 starts while Morris had 34, close enough) he would have added 1.2 WAR to the starting staff. Mahomes was replacement level, Trombley was +0.6 wins, but Banks and West were both -0.6 wins. Replacing the net -0.6 wins with Morris' +0.6 wins would make them maybe beat out Milwaukee for third place. You could argue he would have a positive effect on the bullpen due to the 240 innings, but it's hard to quantify and would be minimal.

                  1. They averaged 4.61 runs/game that year, led the league in team average at .277, 2nd in the league in OBP at .330 but were 7th in SLG at .391.

                    Month by Month

                    Mo. W L RS RA WP
                    April 9 12 92 94 .429
                    May 18 8 162 105 .692
                    June 18 11 153 105 .621
                    July 16 11 108 100 .593
                    August 12 17 105 133 .414
                    September 14 12 101 102 .538
                    October 3 1 26 14 .750
                    1. Twins have the 20th pick and do better than every other team except the Mariners, drafting A-Rod first. It seems baseball more than any other sport has less dependency on draft position for successful drafting.

                    2. I wonder if the Twins would have traded for Smiley had they retained Morris. Smiley had his career year with the Twins, and a front four of Tapani-Smiley-Morris-Erickson would have been pretty dang good. Of course, the Twins gave up Denny Neagle to get Smiley. Neagle wasn't actually good until 1995, but after that he was really good - almost combined 11 bWAR for the Pirates in 1995-1996.

        2. The western part of the state is in a blizzard. The weather guessers are saying we won't have one here, but we are in a winter weather advisory. It hasn't snowed here yet, but the last I saw, 1-3 inches is expected.

          1. Also, the southeastern corner of South Dakota (where I used to live) is in a tornado warning.

            1. Just some rain, for the most part. A couple of tornado sightings, but I've gotten to the point where if I don't see a picture of the funnel, I assume someone got excited about strong winds or maybe a dust devil and reported it.

              1. My friends in the Wynstone area of North Sioux City say there was a tornado there. Also hail in the area.

          2. Looks like we're not going to get any snow here after all. Still chilly, drizzly, and windy. We got quite a bit of rain, but I'm sure everyone here is a lot happier to see it come that way.

    2. The first time I was in New Orleans was for a work function. It was late September and a tropical depression rolled in. I remember walking back from the Quarter to the hotel on Canal Street in the wee hours in a soft, steady rain that was as warm as a shower. Bon temps, indeed.

    3. We've got an early start to our Santa Ana wind season. Not enough to really cause damage, but we have a red flag warning, which means we have to be very careful about fires. Also, it's playing havoc with my sinuses.

    1. His logic for being confrontational was "they're mean to us, so why not be mean to them?" And while that line of thinking might make sense on the playground, it's really not too great of a mindset to further your agenda. If someone snaps at you about what you think and berates that line of thinking, I'd be more likely to simply ignore that person as opposed to continue to listen.

      So, so applicable to other, recent events in the news.

      1. also,

        I'm a huge fan of craft beer. If one of my friends is drinking a boring adjust [sic] lager

        TIME TO MOCK!

    1. Ronny pretty much had me convinced at "Jumps over Monster Truck".

      httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GY0cTvc2lQ

      1. I love Ronny Turiaf. But he's probably not an improvement over Stiemer, and he's on the wrong side of 30 now.

        1. I'm in no disagreement there in terms of abilities. I'm speaking strictly from a personality stand point.

    1. Those with children should have them inoculated as it's shown to decrease the death rate in the elderly.

      1. This boyo just got the flu shot after a work trip to Columbia, SoCar - Heard plenty o' sneezes on the flight home - figgered I was due.

        I have a 1/2 marathon Sunday after next - don't want any problems.

        1. under the ACA, preventive care, including immunizations, is now required to be "free" (no marginal cost) under many/most plans.

          1. But it's in bringing the shots into the office with a minimum of paperwork that really gets 90%* of the staff to get the shots.

            *anecdotal estimate

      1. Huh. They must have changed it from the time I read it to the time I posted, because I still have the tab open with the original language (version 2; you linked to version 3).

        1. I've been doing this with all my LTEs since 2007 and none of you have caught on yet.

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