Mags hosts SBG, Buffalo, DK, and cheaptoy as they talk Timberwolves and the NBA.
Run time: 1:05
52 thoughts on “WGOM Radio Episode 2 – T’Wolves & NBA Talk”
I'm confused. You say run time is 1:05 but it's actually 12 minutes.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure what's going on. It looks like a bad upload or something. I'll fuss with it after dinner.
Yeah, I heard like 2 minutes of Wolves talk and 10 minutes of general NBA stuff. Seemed kind of disproportionate.
I had a similar experience on the front page, but the full run in the post.
nevermind, after the 45 second mark that time drops to 12:08
It seems like the middle 50 minutes or so are all null bytes. A bad upload seems doubtful, since errors this large don't really happen if the upload was otherwise successful. It seems like a bad encode or export.
Damn. I'll figure it out
So the master mp3 works just fine on my computer, but I got cut-off at 2 minutes here.
Interesting. I suppose try re-uploading. If there's still an issue, I could try a different kernel on the host, but that would involve a reboot.
I downloaded a copy from the server to my HD and it's all messed up. It looks like a re-upload could fix things.
I re-uploaded and things appear to be working properly. Let me know if you continue to have problems.
Note to self: spend less time typing during recording.
I knew that was typing! Weird bed springs my ass.
I tried to edit as many of those out as I could but:
1) There were a lot of them, and
2) If they were while someone was talking, I couldn't figure out how to get them out without chopping the speech as well.
Trust me, for everyone that's still in there, I took out another one or maybe even two.
No really! I thought it was my ass! I did!
that's some heavy finger hunt-and-PEK!ing going on
ab-so-lutely HIlarious.
But seriously, I'm enjoying this immensely guys. Particularly with a SN Celebration in my hand.
Or get a better mic. Having a mute function is really handy.
I love the eye-eye talk around the 57 minute mark.
Damn, I must have been away from the computer during that.
It was so deftly handled, you'd likely not have noticed.
Stick got stuck in a rut there. Awesome.
I wasn't actually trying to do the ii joke.
which made it that much funnier.
agreed. classic.
Plans for episode 3 will be made sometime mid-week once I'm in Prague and settled.
Buffalo: "Well, let's see, they [the Braves] moved in '77 and I was born in '83..."
Holy cr@p. This is so wrong. You are making me feel old.
I think that's after the part where we noted that Buffalo wasn't even the youngest podcaster present.
I was the youngest one on the episode (1986).
I can safely not process it when you guys give your ages. But giving birth year is juuust a bit too much in my face to ignore.
I was damn near Mag's Andrew's (present) age when he was born. Makes sense that I would bow out of this forum.
oh, lord. I used Wilkinsons double-edged hatchets when I first started shaving. Ugh.
ESPN is reporting that Miami is making offers to Kenyon Martin and Joel Przybilla.
I'm still disappointed that the Wolves didn't take a flyer on Przybilla. He's not an offensive player, but he's a solid defender, rebounder and shot blocker. He'd be a huge upgrade for Miami from Joel Anthony.
Martin I don't have much use for.
looks like i'm going to have to re-download this one when i get back tonight. too bad, was looking forward to it today.
I downloaded the file this morning, put it on my MP3 player. It froze around 2 minutes, was frozen for the next four, then continued around the 52 minute mark.
Just listened to the whole thing- much more T-Wolves talk, which I appreciated. Not that I I don't want to hear about Howard and the rest of the league, but the full podcast was much more entertaining.
We talked at some point (I haven't listened to the whole thing, so I don't know if this made it into the final edit or not) about potential trades for the Wolves that the amnesty clause might be applicable to (i.e., the Wolves take a bad contract back to facilitate acquiring a player they want, with the idea that they could amnesty the bad contract later). At one point I know I remarked that I had thought the amnesty couldn't be used on players acquired in future trades, even if the contract had existed when the CBA was agreed to; Buffalo disagreed with my recollection. This article by DK-endorsed Zach Lowe (see the first bullet point) looks like it confirms what my recollection had been.
Amnesty talk was on the intermission. I plan on releasing that and the "What are you drinking?" we decided to tape after SBG already got off the line (Sorry) as a "Outtakes" episode next week since there will be a gap in recording.
There's more mentions of how the amnesty works in some other articles there, too. I say you got it right, which is bad news for the Wolves. No point in using the amnesty clause on any of the T-wolves' existing contracts, I don't think. Maybe if they desperately need cap room for a trade, but there's just not that much benefit for them.
It's a one-time deal. Darko is the only obvious target, and yet he doesn't save Glen all that much dough.
You mean cap room, because they'd still have to pay Darko.
Yes, cap room. The whole amnesty bit was to rid caps of albatross deals like Arenas and Rashard Lewis'.
Dumbest move the Knicks made this off season was dumping Chauncey.
He can be seen on TNT right now. Clips/Denver.
How about that? I stand corrected. Thanks for the follow up, DK.
Seriously, how are people listening to the whole thing? Whether I listen to it here or I download it, I still get just 12 minutes.
the version i got which updated from the RSS feed in itunes originally didn't work. this morning, i right clicked on the "Download" link, and clicked "Save link as...", and saved it. it worked on the computer, so i loaded it onto my ipod like any other MP3.
When I click on "play in new window", or play it here, it comes up with the 1 hour 5 minute run time now, though it didn't initially. Maybe try erasing some browser history/cookies?
that doesn't work for me either. I tried IE and the file is just a big red X with no links
It worked fine for me when I downloaded it and listened with VLC. If you can, could you run a checksum on the file you downloaded? Microsoft has a tool that will do that.
For reference (I think these are right):
SHA1: 09d94d3497acc8318ee1108ba8c6dbca4754215c
MD5: 1438fcfd6e037e6d658e731654af50f5
Side note: Mags, since you're using Linux, you can trivially verify things on both ends now. Run sha1sum on the file on your laptop and the uploaded file* and you can guarantee yourself that things uploaded correctly. The large error is really strange and you rarely should have any issues, but if you want to be able to double check things, this is how you do it.
* Instead of using SFTP, you would SSH to wgom.org and run sha1sum in the same fashion. I can help you with this part if you want.
VLC didn't work for me. It reads 1:05, but skips at the 2 minute mark all the way up to the 55 minute mark. That checksum thing confused the hell out of me; have no idea how to use it.
It seems very likely you still have the original file. I'm guessing it's been cached and the file size possibly hasn't changed.
For the utility, it looks it prompts you for the installation path. I picked the desktop. Put the MP3 file on the desktop as well. Then open a command prompt, cd to the Desktop, and run fciv.exe -both Episode_2.mp3.
I'm confused. You say run time is 1:05 but it's actually 12 minutes.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure what's going on. It looks like a bad upload or something. I'll fuss with it after dinner.
Yeah, I heard like 2 minutes of Wolves talk and 10 minutes of general NBA stuff. Seemed kind of disproportionate.
I had a similar experience on the front page, but the full run in the post.
nevermind, after the 45 second mark that time drops to 12:08
It seems like the middle 50 minutes or so are all null bytes. A bad upload seems doubtful, since errors this large don't really happen if the upload was otherwise successful. It seems like a bad encode or export.
Damn. I'll figure it out
So the master mp3 works just fine on my computer, but I got cut-off at 2 minutes here.
Interesting. I suppose try re-uploading. If there's still an issue, I could try a different kernel on the host, but that would involve a reboot.
I downloaded a copy from the server to my HD and it's all messed up. It looks like a re-upload could fix things.
I re-uploaded and things appear to be working properly. Let me know if you continue to have problems.
Note to self: spend less time typing during recording.
I knew that was typing! Weird bed springs my ass.
I tried to edit as many of those out as I could but:
1) There were a lot of them, and
2) If they were while someone was talking, I couldn't figure out how to get them out without chopping the speech as well.
Trust me, for everyone that's still in there, I took out another one or maybe even two.
No really! I thought it was my ass! I did!
that's some heavy finger hunt-and-PEK!ing going on
ab-so-lutely HIlarious.
But seriously, I'm enjoying this immensely guys. Particularly with a SN Celebration in my hand.
Or get a better mic. Having a mute function is really handy.
I love the eye-eye talk around the 57 minute mark.
Damn, I must have been away from the computer during that.
It was so deftly handled, you'd likely not have noticed.
Stick got stuck in a rut there. Awesome.
I wasn't actually trying to do the ii joke.
which made it that much funnier.
agreed. classic.
Plans for episode 3 will be made sometime mid-week once I'm in Prague and settled.
Buffalo: "Well, let's see, they [the Braves] moved in '77 and I was born in '83..."
Holy cr@p. This is so wrong. You are making me feel old.
I think that's after the part where we noted that Buffalo wasn't even the youngest podcaster present.
I was the youngest one on the episode (1986).
I can safely not process it when you guys give your ages. But giving birth year is juuust a bit too much in my face to ignore.
I was damn near
Mag'sAndrew's (present) age when he was born. Makes sense that I would bow out of this forum.*draws warm bath, looks around for Wilkinsons.
oh, lord. I used Wilkinsons double-edged hatchets when I first started shaving. Ugh.
ESPN is reporting that Miami is making offers to Kenyon Martin and Joel Przybilla.
I'm still disappointed that the Wolves didn't take a flyer on Przybilla. He's not an offensive player, but he's a solid defender, rebounder and shot blocker. He'd be a huge upgrade for Miami from Joel Anthony.
Martin I don't have much use for.
looks like i'm going to have to re-download this one when i get back tonight. too bad, was looking forward to it today.
I downloaded the file this morning, put it on my MP3 player. It froze around 2 minutes, was frozen for the next four, then continued around the 52 minute mark.
Just listened to the whole thing- much more T-Wolves talk, which I appreciated. Not that I I don't want to hear about Howard and the rest of the league, but the full podcast was much more entertaining.
We talked at some point (I haven't listened to the whole thing, so I don't know if this made it into the final edit or not) about potential trades for the Wolves that the amnesty clause might be applicable to (i.e., the Wolves take a bad contract back to facilitate acquiring a player they want, with the idea that they could amnesty the bad contract later). At one point I know I remarked that I had thought the amnesty couldn't be used on players acquired in future trades, even if the contract had existed when the CBA was agreed to; Buffalo disagreed with my recollection. This article by DK-endorsed Zach Lowe (see the first bullet point) looks like it confirms what my recollection had been.
Amnesty talk was on the intermission. I plan on releasing that and the "What are you drinking?" we decided to tape after SBG already got off the line (Sorry) as a "Outtakes" episode next week since there will be a gap in recording.
There's more mentions of how the amnesty works in some other articles there, too. I say you got it right, which is bad news for the Wolves. No point in using the amnesty clause on any of the T-wolves' existing contracts, I don't think. Maybe if they desperately need cap room for a trade, but there's just not that much benefit for them.
It's a one-time deal. Darko is the only obvious target, and yet he doesn't save Glen all that much dough.
You mean cap room, because they'd still have to pay Darko.
Yes, cap room. The whole amnesty bit was to rid caps of albatross deals like Arenas and Rashard Lewis'.
Dumbest move the Knicks made this off season was dumping Chauncey.
He can be seen on TNT right now. Clips/Denver.
How about that? I stand corrected. Thanks for the follow up, DK.
Seriously, how are people listening to the whole thing? Whether I listen to it here or I download it, I still get just 12 minutes.
the version i got which updated from the RSS feed in itunes originally didn't work. this morning, i right clicked on the "Download" link, and clicked "Save link as...", and saved it. it worked on the computer, so i loaded it onto my ipod like any other MP3.
When I click on "play in new window", or play it here, it comes up with the 1 hour 5 minute run time now, though it didn't initially. Maybe try erasing some browser history/cookies?
that doesn't work for me either. I tried IE and the file is just a big red X with no links
It worked fine for me when I downloaded it and listened with VLC. If you can, could you run a checksum on the file you downloaded? Microsoft has a tool that will do that.
For reference (I think these are right):
SHA1: 09d94d3497acc8318ee1108ba8c6dbca4754215c
MD5: 1438fcfd6e037e6d658e731654af50f5
Side note: Mags, since you're using Linux, you can trivially verify things on both ends now. Run
sha1sum
on the file on your laptop and the uploaded file* and you can guarantee yourself that things uploaded correctly. The large error is really strange and you rarely should have any issues, but if you want to be able to double check things, this is how you do it.* Instead of using SFTP, you would SSH to wgom.org and run
sha1sum
in the same fashion. I can help you with this part if you want.VLC didn't work for me. It reads 1:05, but skips at the 2 minute mark all the way up to the 55 minute mark. That checksum thing confused the hell out of me; have no idea how to use it.
It seems very likely you still have the original file. I'm guessing it's been cached and the file size possibly hasn't changed.
For the utility, it looks it prompts you for the installation path. I picked the desktop. Put the MP3 file on the desktop as well. Then open a command prompt, cd to the Desktop, and run
fciv.exe -both Episode_2.mp3
.fixed it! Thanks