(Over)Protective Fathers … or, “Other People’s Kids”?

Editor's Note - Copied an LTE of mine from yesterday that got away from me. I started typing a response, and it blew up. Instead of making a standalone FKB post, when I realized it was paragraph(s) long, I went back and added the cop-out "FKB(?) alert..." and hit "Mail Letter to the Editor".

Context: My daughter is very sensitive & emotional ... like, look at her the wrong way (make a face she thinks is mocking or angry) and she's ready to cry; give her a hug and tell her how amazing she is and she's beaming. Lately, she's been concerned (is certain) that other kids don't like her or are laughing at her. It doesn't take much to break her heart.

We were in the hallway at child care and I was checking her and Niblet into the computer system, when a snotty voice from her classroom (adjacent to the keypad, but out of my sightline) mockingly calls out to her, "What are you looking at!?!" as she's standing there next to me. We couldn't have been at the door for more than 10 seconds at that point. She embarrassedly looks down and away - and I damn near lost my shit. I leaned into the doorway and stared this kid down (7-9 years old maybe? - it's a classroom for various school-aged children, before & after school care) and he sort-of nervously grins in surprise at me, then leans back and looks at his buddy and snickers. Says under his breath, but loud enough to hear, "what's he staring at?" I stand there long enough for it to be uncomfortable, and he just kept grinning at me. So ... I walk into the classroom and over to his table. I stop about 6 feet away, with the table and some other students (and a "teacher") between us, I tell him in my dad voice that it's not okay for him to talk to my daughter that way. Tell him that he better not do it again, either in front of me, or when I'm not there. He stops smiling and just holds his half-eaten toast partway to his mouth. I say if I hear about it from her that he treats her that way again, there will be consequences (I did not define what they might be - pretty sure there isn't anything I could actually 'do' about him being a jerk ... at that point I was working hard not to yell or swear at him). Then I had my daughter come into the classroom, and told him to apologize to her. He did. The two "teachers" and the rest of the classmates eating breakfast just sat there. I was so livid, that I just nodded at his apology and Kernel and I walked out to take Niblet down to his room.

On the way back, her lead "teacher" met me in the hallway and asked if this was an issue that she hadn't been aware of. She seemed very concerned about it being bullying or somesuch. I said, "No," but informed her that my kid is sensitive and isn't very good about standing up for herself (quite the opposite, she shrinks and feels bad about herself). So, if there's someone being mean to her who's old enough to know better, and I'm standing right there, I'm going to call them out on it. I said that no more follow up was needed ... I just wouldn't put up with that kind of behavior.

I'm hopeful it isn't an issue, but man, it was not something I was prepared to deal with. I just reacted to the tone of his voice, and his response to my stare only exacerbated things. I guess I was hoping he'd be embarrassed or something ... I don't know.

There were a few immediate responses:

Zee German

In my head I'm seeing that video of the guy who starts knock-out slapping everyone in sight after something happened to his kid.

Might be a good FKB discussion, but if our kids are out there among...people, we best prepare ourselves for the inevitability of these situations. For the record, my son is usually the super-sensitive one who is now recognizing that he's an outsider in middle school. Tough place to be. He's an easy target for someone who wants to provoke a little entertainment. Still not sure how we handle it.

zooomx.2

Good for you. I know it's easy as a parent to not engage in these situations as we think we may embarrass our kids. I had 2 situations like you describe. One, a kid in the hockey locker room was making fun of my quiet /introverted son. I did get in his face about it not being the way to treat a teammate. I then went to the Dad and explained what happened and described how I handled it. 9 years later the Dads and the boys are good friends. A couple years after that incident a neighbor boy, bullied my son on the bus. We are good friends with his parents, and he is a year older than my son. I called their house and the boy in question answered. I told him that I heard about the bullying incident, and that I was greatly disappointed. I told him that I was giving him one "pass" when it comes to bullying. I told him I would not tell his Dad this time, but the next time he would not be happy with the ramifications. Never had another issue since. Families are great friends. My son was actually proud that I stood up for him both times, which surprised me. Shorty after these 2 incidents, he had a couple situations where he totally stood up and had his own "Christmas Story/Ralphie" moments. Both times, he intervened when a friend or teammate was bullied and fixed the problem. Proud papa moments. I once had a supervisor that told me that as managers, we had to approach conflict like firemen. Rush into the fire and put it out. Don't stand across the street and hope it rains.

Update - No blowback at the school this morning, but Kernel did say the boy had repeated his "What are you looking at!?!" on the bus and indicated both that he is kind of a jerk (her word!) and that she'd told the bus driver. My initial thought was basically, "Well, I can't be with her 100% of the time, so good for her for doing what I'd recommended - tell an adult." On the other hand, we've been noticing a lot more lying from her lately, about really stupid (& easily verifiable) stuff; lies for reasons that make sense to her ... because she's 6. My second reaction was, "Did he really? Or, did she see how angry I was with him and liked knowing [seeing] how much I cared?" or something like that.

2002 Rewind: Game Forty-two

MINNESOTA 14, KANSAS CITY 5 IN KANSAS CITY

Date:  Thursday, May 16.

Batting stars:  Torii Hunter was 4-for-6 with two home runs, his tenth and eleventh.  He scored three times and drove in four.  Tom Prince was 2-for-4 with a home run (his fourth), a walk, and three RBIs.  Jacque Jones was 2-for-6 with a home run, his eighth.

Pitching stars:  Jack Cressend pitched two shutout innings.  Bob Wells pitched a perfect inning.

Opposition stars:  Carlos Beltran was 2-for-3 with a walk.  Juan Brito was 2-for-4 with two doubles.  Michael Tucker was 2-for-5 with a double.

The game:  Hunter homered in the first to put the Twins up 1-0.  Jay Canizaro and Denny Hocking each had an RBI double in a three-run second that made it 4-0.  They added two more in the third and Jones homered in the fourth to make it 7-0.  The Royals scored three in the fifth to cut the lead to 7-3, but Prince and Cristian Guzman each homered in the sixth and the Twins were never threatened again.  Hunter put an exclamation point on the game with a three-run homer in a five-run seventh.

WP:  Kyle Lohse (3-2).  LP:  Chris George (0-4).  S:  None.

Notes:  Doug Mientkiewicz apparently had a minor injury, as he missed his second straight game and would not play again until May 22.  Bobby Kielty was at first place, one of five times he would play there in 2002 and one of eight times he would play there in his career.  He went 2-for-4 with a double, a walk, and a stolen base, his second.  He raised his average to .300....It would be interesting to know why Ron Gardenhire sometimes played Hocking at third and Canizaro at second and sometimes did it the other way around.  In this game it was Hocking at second and Canizaro at third...Hunter raised his average to .342...Prince also raised his average to .342...Dustan Mohr was 2-for-5 with a walk and two stolen bases, his second and third, to make his average .311...Lohse pitched five innings, giving up three runs (one earned) on four hits and five walks with two strikeouts...Chuck Knoblauch stole two bases for Kansas City, his eleventh and twelfth.  This was his thirty-eighth game.  Twelve stolen bases in thirty-eight games is pretty good when your OBP is only .271...The two doubles by Juan Brito were the only two he would get in the majors in 2002.  He played only nine games for the Royals, getting sent back to the minors ten days later despite the fact that he was batting .304 at the time.  He would not get back to the majors until 2004, when he was with Arizona.  He came up in June and stayed for the rest of the season, batting .205 in 171 at-bats.  That would be it for his major league career, although he played in AAA through 2007 and played in winter ball through 2010.  He batted .216/.252/.309 in 194 at-bats.  It appears that he is the brother of Jorge Brito, who caught for Colorado in 1995-96.

Record:  The Twins were 25-17, in first place, 1.5 games ahead of Chicago.

Happy Birthday–November 15

Tom Loftus (1856)
Pat Ragan (1883)
Mickey Livingston (1914)
Gus Bell (1928)
Big Brother A (1951)
Randy Niemann (1955)
Pedro Borbon (1967)

Tom Loftus managed Cincinnati, Chicago, and Washington around the turn of the (twentieth) century.

Big Brother A is one of the two people--Dad A being the other--from whom I got a love of baseball and a love of the Twins.  I don't know how it's possible that I have a brother who's sixty-six years old when I'm still so young, but happy birthday, Big Brother.

We also wish a happy birthday to spookymilk’s brother.

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2002 Rewind: Game Forty-one

MINNESOTA 8, KANSAS CITY 6 IN KANSAS CITY

Date:  Wednesday, May 15.

Batting stars:  Jacque Jones was 2-for-5 with two home runs (his sixth and seventh) and four RBIs.  Bobby Kielty was 2-for-3 with a walk.  A. J. Pierzynski was 2-for-4.

Pitching stars:  Mike Jackson retired all four men he faced.  Eddie Guardado pitched as scoreless ninth despite giving up two hits.

Opposition stars:  Mike Sweeney was 4-for-5 with a home run (his fifth) and two doubles.  Carlos Febles was 2-for-4 with a stolen base, his fourth.  Neifi Perez was 1-for-4 with a two-run homer.

The game:  Jones led off the game with a home run and Kielty singled home a run later in the inning to give the Twins a 2-0 lead.  Kielty delivered another RBI single in the third to make it 3-0.  The Royals got a run on a wild pitch in the third and Febles delivered a two-run single in the fourth to tie it 3-3.  Sweeney homered in the fifth to put Kansas City up 4-3.  In the sixth, the Twins loaded the bases with one out.  Denny Hocking tied the score with a ground out and Jones followed with a three-run homer to give Minnesota a 7-4 lead.  Perez hit a two-run homer in the seventh to cut the lead to 7-6, but that was as close as the Royals would come.  Hocking contributed another run-scoring ground out in the eighth to provide and insurance run.  Kansas City tried to rally in the ninth.  Guardado came in to start the inning.  Chuck Knoblauch had a one-out single and Sweeney a two-out single to put men on first and second.  They then pulled off a double steal to make it second and third.  Guardado then struck out Carlos Beltran to end the game.

WP:  Eric Milton (5-3).  LP:  Dan Reichert (1-4).  S:  Guardado (14).

Notes:  David Ortiz was at first base, replacing Doug Mientkiewicz.  He went 1-for-5.  Brian Buchanan was the DH and went 0-for-4...Casey Blake was again at third base, going 1-for-4...Hocking was at second base and was 1-for-4...Eric Milton started and got the win despite not pitching very well.  He went 5.1 innings, giving up six runs (five earned) on eight hits and no walks with no strikeouts...Mike Trombley, who had started the season with the Dodgers and been released, made his season debut with the Twins, giving up one hit in one-third of an inning.  Unfortunately, he would make only four more appearances with the Twins before his career came to an end...Torii Hunter was 0-for-4 with a walk and was batting .329...Pierzynski raised his average to .310...Jackson's ERA fell to 1.15...Guardado's ERA was 1.89...Dan Reichert played in the majors for most of three seasons and parts of two others without really doing anything to show he belonged there.  His "best" season, I suppose, was 2000, when he went 8-10, 4.70, 1.62 WHIP, 5.10 FIP.  He appeared in 44 games that year, eighteen of them starts.  It was the lowest ERA and the lowest FIP of his career, although not by much in the latter case.  He came up to the Royals in 1999 and stayed through 2002, going to Toronto in 2003.  For his career he was 21-25, 5.55, 1.68 WHIP, 5.14 FIP in 395.1 innings.  You can't even really call him a AAAA pitcher, because his AAA numbers are 24-19, 4.33, 1.46 WHIP in 363.1 innings.  He had 8.3 strikeouts per nine innings in AAA, which may be why he kept getting chances in the majors.  Whenever I see a guy like this, I think of the players who succeed in AAA year after year and never get a real shot, while someone like this gets chance after chance.  At last report, he was the pitching coach of the Lincoln Saltdogs.

Record:  The Twins were 24-17, in first place by 1.5 games over Chicago.